M-84AS
Дата: 03.04.2014 13:12:24
         snake87, on 25 March 2014 - 07:44 AM, said: I did mention just F117 but there was an F15 that was shoot down
its tail sits in the museum in Belgrade alongside a Predator drone
and a tomahawk now what is interesting is that the plane with same
markings as the F15 still fly and u can see that tail section in
one of the trailers for the movie The Second Meeting.As for stealth
not meaning invisible i did not say that.And with an argument that
the SAM was searching with its radar that is also nonsence cause of
rockets specially designed to lock on a SAM radar signiture
remember it and strike eaven if the radar was deactivated so what
the crew did and what they needed to do was turn on their radar for
30 sec,deactivate radar move to a different location or what the
akaks call spare position then do it all over then spare position
number 2 then again spare position number 3 as u go trough all of
them a detachment of usually 2-3 soldiers is sent to prep poss 4
and and so on and so on atleast it is done like that in our army
and if some smartypants wants to say it was not so i was an AA and
i still get nightmares when i see an army showel.
snake87, on 25 March 2014 - 07:44 AM, said: I did mention just F117 but there was an F15 that was shoot down
its tail sits in the museum in Belgrade alongside a Predator drone
and a tomahawk now what is interesting is that the plane with same
markings as the F15 still fly and u can see that tail section in
one of the trailers for the movie The Second Meeting.As for stealth
not meaning invisible i did not say that.And with an argument that
the SAM was searching with its radar that is also nonsence cause of
rockets specially designed to lock on a SAM radar signiture
remember it and strike eaven if the radar was deactivated so what
the crew did and what they needed to do was turn on their radar for
30 sec,deactivate radar move to a different location or what the
akaks call spare position then do it all over then spare position
number 2 then again spare position number 3 as u go trough all of
them a detachment of usually 2-3 soldiers is sent to prep poss 4
and and so on and so on atleast it is done like that in our army
and if some smartypants wants to say it was not so i was an AA and
i still get nightmares when i see an army showel.His accounts are ok including helicopters exept the B2 which is total nonsence and the 2 damaged F117 also most of the planes that crashed in other countrys acctually did crash landings on or near airports.All of the pilots and crew captured as were 3 ground recon units were sent over the border with Bosnia,Croatia or in case of ground recon Macedonia.The NATO dead were returned after the war.Yesterday was the 15-aniwersary of the bombing almost 2500 ppl lost their lives and almost 90 on the other side may they all find peace
.As for the M91 Vihor the Serbs and Croats finally made an agreement that the tank was the brainchild of both countrys and both may produce it but with different mark and ofc both countrys added something they think whould inprove the original 1990 design.
We are also still in a deadlock about a 1989 airplane prototype with both sides not wanting to bugde and claiming the plane was all their idea.
Hunter1911:   I think that project is dead in the water. Even if the
agreement is reached, separately neither nation has the technical
capabilities to produce a jet fighter, not to mention the design
now being by far obsolete...  
 yourgreatestfear, on 24 March 2014 - 08:07 AM, said: Well, technicly the T-84AS is very close to the T-90S. It shares a
lot of its technology (FCS etc.) so that it is on par with the
offensive abilities of a T-90S  and only cuts back a little on
protection for more mobility.   Especially on matters of
mobility it should be a good notch better then the Twardy or Degman
with its powerful engine and good power-to-weight ratio, if the
suspension is able to handle it.
yourgreatestfear, on 24 March 2014 - 08:07 AM, said: Well, technicly the T-84AS is very close to the T-90S. It shares a
lot of its technology (FCS etc.) so that it is on par with the
offensive abilities of a T-90S  and only cuts back a little on
protection for more mobility.   Especially on matters of
mobility it should be a good notch better then the Twardy or Degman
with its powerful engine and good power-to-weight ratio, if the
suspension is able to handle it.Hunter1911:   Both T-84 and M-95 Degman currently use similar 1200 HP
diesel powerpack (with Degman using a 12-cyl.engine and T-84
a 6-cylinder diesel engine) . Both have pretty much
similar suspension, and weight difference is only 2 tonnes in
favour of Degman. So IMHO they are pretty balanced on that field,
at least on paper.   As for the offensive abilities, I would
give the advantage to M-95 due to new 120mm compact RUAG gun
and few additional defensive and ECM systems including LAHAT anti
tank missiles.
M-84AS 
            













