WoT heading full speed in the same wall as WoW
Дата: 10.09.2021 15:55:43
dibbdroid, on 09 September 2021 - 06:44 PM, said: Considering you are meant to be WG staff and a
community manager you're evidently a condascending narcissist and
everything wrong with WG's attitude toward customers. The author of
this post has raised some reasonable points and then gets this sort
of RESPECT. Yeah, your ego has not played well with others.
Unprofessional. The majority feeling on SCrew 2.0 is it
sucks, you gave up answering on the forum because of the
negativity. The overwhelming feedback from the community is a no
but the WG blindness wins out, same as the HE changes. Chat
is toxic, open your eyes. The responses to this guy's , and many
others' response shows the level of toxicity and solipsism in the
WG community The real crux of the matter is gameplay itself
has decended into chaos, too many 5 minute or less battles. You sit
in a run of 100 or more battles with 90% scoreline of 15-5 or worse
(and the reverse) and 80% as bottom tier and try to have a positive
comment at World of Tanks and Wargaming. Or carry on being
discourteous to your customers and see how that works out in the
longterm.HeatResistantBFG:
lemanrussdemolisher, on 09 September 2021 - 07:32 PM, said: I think that what he means to say is that they have not
binned the screw 2.0 but pushed it back by +/-6 months which can
still forbear them trying still force it down on people once the
WoW shitstorm will have passed. So no it's not yet
implemented; hopefully it will never be, with more luck they will
keep the handful of useful ideas and dump the rest in the toilets
where it belongs and flush it. 19:34 Added after 2 minute HeatResistantBFG:
stormermp, on 09 September 2021 - 10:45 PM, said: Nah it's just plain 'ole WG mocking it's player base that still
cares and plays this game.As seen in what lenghts they regard their
customers already in WoWs community.That's falling apart along with
the gameHeatResistantBFG:
Downie, on 09 September 2021 - 11:22 PM, said: "A good clan using S.Conqs will still very much likely beat a not
as good clan using chieftains, how much the tank makes a difference
usually only becomes a thing in the top 0.1% or so. And in terms of
the rest of this, it's like saying that you entered into a 100m
race and when everyone else finished you were at 80m's, so it would
be only fair that we let you start there next time... No. This is a
thing to reward the high level of play, if you don't win then you
don't win. It's that simple, it isn't meant to be for everyone.
Anyone can enter/be involved but that doesn't stop some skill being
required to get the rewards. And as already said, if you want
to buy stuff in the auction save up and do so, no one is
stopping you. " WG STAFF QUOTE The quote from the WG staff
proves how detached wargaming are a good clan will beat a clan
thats not so good with super conquerors are you actually
kidding? The not so good clan wont be able to field 100%
Chieftens or 279 or any of the other OP tanks and the good clan are
not going to use S Conqs in the game but only use the OP tanks and
spam gold. The point of clans wars is about fair competition yet
you allow broken vehicles into the mix why isnt all clan on clan
action simply tech tree tanks only would save all the problems and
allow FAIR competiton. I really laugh at your skill
comment why dont you publish the list of cheaters on the EU server
so we can see where the skill lies. You are doing nothing
for community relations with the save up comment but more and more
now its harder for players to earn any money specialy the free to
play guys out there because of the changes you constantly
make. And your 100m analogy is simply not related to what the
guys saying at all. How about instead of trying to be
sacarstic to a player whos taken the time to write down a detailed
opinion for you you start to collate the opinions of people on the
forums and take them to your overlords. WG is in
trouble with Warships, Your in trouble with several countries and
now your trying to alienate you customers further with these stupid
and rather patronising replies. Here another genius quote
frrom the new guy try to boost PR MM +/-1 no more, people
will wait if this means nicer games and funnier game "If this was
entirely the case then people would near exclusively play pref mm
tanks. I personally think the MM is in the best state it has ever
been, but we can always improve it and we know that it's a heavily
highlighted area of feedback, so we are sure to pass this on "
I would love to play my pref match making tanks constantly
getting +1-1 matchmaking as that is the premise the vehicles were
sold under however your broken match maker constantly puts them at
+2. Let me make this really clear to you the MM is in its
worst state ever not its best if your so confident on that
statement send a poll out to the enitre player base with the
question "Is the MM working" I Dare you HeatResistantBFG: "If this was entirely the case then people would near exclusively
play pref mm tanks. I personally think the MM is in the best state
it has ever been, but we can always improve it and we know that
it's a heavily highlighted area of feedback, so we are sure to pass
this on " I would love to play my pref match making tanks
constantly getting +1-1 matchmaking as that is the premise the
vehicles were sold under however your broken match maker constantly
puts them at +2. Let me make this really clear to you the MM
is in its worst state ever not its best if your so confident on
that statement send a poll out to the enitre player base with the
question "Is the MM working" I Dare you
Downie, on 10 September 2021 - 12:07 AM, said: Expand black list to 10k. It's badly needed, you are the ones
responsible for the aggressive atmosphere by creating op tanks to
an elite, unbalanced MM, pathetic RNG and idiotic map starting
position, when I started this game people would wish everyone luck,
Polish players would even say "Siema". Bringing that one back is
your responsibility by creating a fun environment, currently, it is
not the players fault it is yours entirely. I'm not even sure I
need to comment on this, the irony is too obvious. But I'll add
that when I first played WoT back in 2013/2014, in my first 100
battles I lost count of how often people wished horrible things on
me and my family all while being high win rate and purple (aka it
wasn't like I was playing bad), since joining WG in November 2020
and playing regularly again I haven't had anywhere near the abuse,
not even had any once actually (tempting fate lol), nevermind as
much as there was back then. So just as anecdotally as you, I can
say with some surety that the chat has never been friendlier...
This is sort of backed up too with people complaining how easily
they get banned in chat for saying things. Another gem from
the WG cheerleader section. I love the way you try to lblow
you own trumpet saying what a great player you are so people dont
abuse you so it must then be okay to abuse rubbish players
Have you considered its the fact you disabled chat to enemy team
because of this exact reason and are therefore only getting 50% of
the abuse? And the fact people might know you work for
wargaming and people might not be so keen to abuse you ?HeatResistantBFG: I'm not even sure I need to comment on this, the irony is too
obvious. But I'll add that when I first played WoT back in
2013/2014, in my first 100 battles I lost count of how often people
wished horrible things on me and my family all while being high win
rate and purple (aka it wasn't like I was playing bad), since
joining WG in November 2020 and playing regularly again I haven't
had anywhere near the abuse, not even had any once actually
(tempting fate lol), nevermind as much as there was back then. So
just as anecdotally as you, I can say with some surety that the
chat has never been friendlier... This is sort of backed up too
with people complaining how easily they get banned in chat for
saying things. Another gem from the WG cheerleader section.
I love the way you try to lblow you own trumpet saying what
a great player you are so people dont abuse you so it must then be
okay to abuse rubbish players Have you considered its the
fact you disabled chat to enemy team because of this exact reason
and are therefore only getting 50% of the abuse? And the fact
people might know you work for wargaming and people might not be so
keen to abuse you ?
lemanrussdemolisher, on 10 September 2021 - 12:18 AM, said: This exactly why I have not even been bothered to answer his comments or that of his unicum buddy since they either answer from bits out of the context to serve their purpose, or mixing two of my comments to match their answer but therefore missing the point, I have better things to do than waste my time with them, I'm glad to see that the reactions of the normal players tend to lean towards my comments (of course with variation and modulations since we all have different game plays and preferences) and that the cry babies I mentioned in my first text stood like one man to try and demonstrate that what I said is untrue. Reading them, I'm obviously not playing the same game (but I remember it's just because I'm a bad players and so are everyone else I play with) and I wonder since we have reached the Nirvana in Tiers X how it comes that harmonious MM and tank balancing leads to games finishing with scores like 3/15, 1/15, 5/15 etc... (could that be me, being contagious and spreading my terrible gameplay to my doomed teammates?) I'm definitely not the best player, I'm certainly not the worst - well except in arty since I'm a mediocre arty player - as it has been decided by my peer Tajj7 (with only 17% of my arties below 50% win out of 37 played and 33 mastered if I'm mediocre I wonder what Tajj7 considers himself to be with his 12 arties 3 masters and 33% below 50% win) and I'm totally a team player and someone that wants to enjoy the richness of the game in both the vehicles types and the various tiers. So I repeat my plea to WG, make the games better balanced, make Clan Wars something that people want to play and not run away from, reward fidelity and involvement, stop insulting your vets
HeatResistantBFG:
Aerialss, on 10 September 2021 - 07:59 AM, said: A good clan using S.Conqs will still very much likely beat a not as
good clan using chieftains, how much the tank makes a difference
usually only becomes a thing in the top 0.1% or so. And in terms of
the rest of this, it's like saying that you entered into a 100m
race and when everyone else finished you were at 80m's, so it would
be only fair that we let you start there next time... No. This is a
thing to reward the high level of play, if you don't win then you
don't win. It's that simple, it isn't meant to be for everyone.
Anyone can enter/be involved but that doesn't stop some
skill being required to get the rewards. And as already said, if
you want to buy stuff in the auction save up and do so, no one
is stopping you. Are you serious about that ? So the new
clans and players can face with S.Congs the chieftains ? And they
dont have any hope that thay can grind the chief for clan battles
beacouse its not anymore in rewards. So are the big clans can enjoy
the benefit off chief and all the poor players can get rapped when
the event is coming ? At least put back the chief for new clans to
give a hope to earn it and give them a porpouse to play the
competitive game. Clan Wars its not for everyone ? But the chief
and the 907 in random battles affects everyone ? Its sad that you
dont give a damn about new players and new clans , face chief with
s.conq its like saying play tier 8 agains tier 10 in clan wars if
you know what i mean. I disagree with may points of view with OP ,
but with clan wars and the chief erased from grind it was a big f.u
all new players , have fun with this great event , you are not
unicums so go f yourselfs from now , and you cant get the chief
from now , its bad you dont played the game back 4-5 years at least
you have the chance to get it.Good luck facing 6-7 with 6-7 S.Conq
in clan wars, they will overotate you with their med speed and even
hulldown they will outplayed you,HeatResistantBFG: So, going to answer here to all of it as a lot of
repeated points. S.conq/comp point, so I will openly say I am
not experienced with PC Competitive scene, I watch it and have
watched it since the WGL era (met some of my now colleagues at
Moscow in London back in 2017 IIRC)... So I would indeed be foolish
to make a point with so little knowledge, except that wasn't my
point, I used the information given to me by people like thePhilX
+ ApolypticalSnowflake as well as other staff who take part it
comp and all the YouTubers and streamers within the CC and
wider community I talk to every day. And the point I made was based
on their far larger knowledge than my own, and I think it stands.
You are of course more than welcome to disagree, but tell me why
and don't just tell me I'm wrong or try to undermine my point by
attacking me. I didn't say it IS okay to send abuse to anyone,
I can see how the wording could have been better but my point with
my stats/ability of the time was merely that I wasn't being sent
abuse for being bad (as you can bet that someone would make that
claim if I didn't say it), I was being sent abuse because why not.
No sending of abuse is okay, and I spend enough time helping get
action taken against people sending abuse that to accuse me of
being pro abuse of anyone is farcical. But again it misses the main
point, it was stated that in their experience the game has got more
toxic, I was saying in mine it hasn't but that both points are
purely anecdotal and so there can be no surety on it either way.
And saying that with all chat turned off that 50% doesn't get
seen/sent is a damn good argument for why it got turned off. Oh,
and I run anonymiser and I highly doubt I'm known enough, I'm
no eek or ectar, and I don't have a WG tag in-game and actually,
the closest I have been to receiving abuse is because I work for
WG.. funnily enough. And professionalism, I'm not really sure
how you think the using of company made emotes on a company
forum to talk to players would be something to be fired over... I
took the time to go over every point they made and reply with
double-checked answers and present as close to the fact as is
possible to each one, I could have just ignored it and got on
with my day and not spent a portion of it making sure a player who
clearly isn't happy with things know that someone who is actually
involved is listening and that in several cases I acknowledged that
it is an area we are working on. So surely to dismiss everything I
said would be to disagree with yourselves? I conceded some points
and offered evidence/points contrary to some of those stated, but
simply stating "mean WeeGee guy should be fired" achieves
nothing. If my wording results in someone feeling insulted, mocked
etc or anything then please bring it to my attention and explain
how/why. It could be a simple misunderstanding or bad wording, but
it will never be my intent and I will always happily remedy or
explain any misunderstandings. Crew 2.0... I'm not really sure
how far irony can be stretched before it becomes an entirely
different thing, but bringing up "WG don't listen to feedback"
and "crew 2.0" as complimenting points simply defeats your own
arguments. How about I add some more, field mods had over 85%
positive feedback from EU players on sandbox (yeah, I was shocked
it was that high too), HE sandbox was 70% globally (yes that has
become a meme, doesn't stop it being real and true and was the
feedback from more than 140k people), Ammo Rework was dropped and
sent back to the drawing board due to player feedback, overmatch
rework was dropped and sent to cutting room floor... there are
probably more I can't immediately think of. WoT has a history of
testing things on the sandbox and if players dislike it, dropping
it or reworking it until they do... it depends on the feedback. As
people keep pointing out there is a lot of good in crew 2.0, but
those good aren't deemed worth the negatives by players and so our
job is to find a way to change those negatives until overall
players want the change... or drop it entirely because it's not
worth the dev time allocated. I'm happy to have
and for our players to have productive and critical conversations
about the game, but keep it constructive, show proof and keep it
civil, let's refrain from the name-calling and what are starting
to more than just blur the lines of being criticism or
insult. If this thread goes further down the uncivil discourse
path, at any speed, I or one of the mods will shut it down.
Thanks 
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