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WoT heading full speed in the same wall as WoW

Дата: 10.09.2021 15:55:43
View Postdibbdroid, on 09 September 2021 - 06:44 PM, said:     Considering you are meant to be WG staff and a community manager you're evidently a condascending narcissist and everything wrong with WG's attitude toward customers. The author of this post has raised some reasonable points and then gets this sort of RESPECT. Yeah, your ego has not played well with others. Unprofessional.   The majority feeling on SCrew 2.0 is it sucks, you gave up answering on the forum because of the negativity. The overwhelming feedback from the community is a no but the WG blindness wins out, same as the HE changes.   Chat is toxic, open your eyes. The responses to this guy's , and many others' response shows the level of toxicity and solipsism in the WG community   The real crux of the matter is gameplay itself has decended into chaos, too many 5 minute or less battles. You sit in a run of 100 or more battles with 90% scoreline of 15-5 or worse (and the reverse) and 80% as bottom tier and try to have a positive comment at World of Tanks and Wargaming.   Or carry on being discourteous to your customers and see how that works out in the longterm.

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View Postlemanrussdemolisher, on 09 September 2021 - 07:32 PM, said:   I think that what he means to say is that they have not binned the screw 2.0 but pushed it back by +/-6 months which can still forbear them trying still force it down on people once the WoW shitstorm will have passed.   So no it's not yet implemented; hopefully it will never be, with more luck they will keep the handful of useful ideas and dump the rest in the toilets where it belongs and flush it. 19:34 Added after 2 minute  

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View Poststormermp, on 09 September 2021 - 10:45 PM, said: Nah it's just plain 'ole WG mocking it's player base that still cares and plays this game.As seen in what lenghts they regard their customers already in WoWs community.That's falling apart along with the game:trollface:

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View PostDownie, on 09 September 2021 - 11:22 PM, said: "A good clan using S.Conqs will still very much likely beat a not as good clan using chieftains, how much the tank makes a difference usually only becomes a thing in the top 0.1% or so. And in terms of the rest of this, it's like saying that you entered into a 100m race and when everyone else finished you were at 80m's, so it would be only fair that we let you start there next time... No. This is a thing to reward the high level of play, if you don't win then you don't win. It's that simple, it isn't meant to be for everyone. Anyone can enter/be involved but that doesn't stop some skill being required to get the rewards. And as already said, if you want to buy stuff in the auction save up and do so, no one is stopping you. " WG STAFF QUOTE   The quote from the WG staff proves how detached wargaming are a good clan will beat a clan thats not so good with super conquerors are you actually kidding?  The not so good clan wont be able to field 100% Chieftens or 279 or any of the other OP tanks and the good clan are not going to use S Conqs in the game but only use the OP tanks and spam gold. The point of clans wars is about fair competition yet you allow broken vehicles into the mix why isnt all clan on clan action simply tech tree tanks only would save all the problems and allow FAIR competiton.    I really laugh at your skill comment why dont you publish the list of cheaters on the EU server so we can see where the skill lies.   You are doing nothing for community relations with the save up comment but more and more now its harder for players to earn any money specialy the free to play guys out there because of the changes you constantly make.  And your 100m analogy is simply not related to what the guys saying at all.  How about instead of trying to be sacarstic to a player whos taken the time to write down a detailed opinion for you you start to collate the opinions of people on the forums and take them to your overlords.   WG is in trouble with Warships, Your in trouble with several countries and now your trying to alienate you customers further with these stupid and rather patronising replies.   Here another genius quote frrom the new guy try to boost PR   MM +/-1 no more, people will wait if this means nicer games and funnier game "If this was entirely the case then people would near exclusively play pref mm tanks. I personally think the MM is in the best state it has ever been, but we can always improve it and we know that it's a heavily highlighted area of feedback, so we are sure to pass this on "   I would love to play my pref match making tanks constantly getting +1-1 matchmaking as that is the premise the vehicles were sold under however your broken match maker constantly puts them at +2.  Let me make this really clear to you the MM is in its worst state ever not its best if your so confident on that statement send a poll out to the enitre player base with the question "Is the MM working" I Dare you    

HeatResistantBFG: "If this was entirely the case then people would near exclusively play pref mm tanks. I personally think the MM is in the best state it has ever been, but we can always improve it and we know that it's a heavily highlighted area of feedback, so we are sure to pass this on "   I would love to play my pref match making tanks constantly getting +1-1 matchmaking as that is the premise the vehicles were sold under however your broken match maker constantly puts them at +2.  Let me make this really clear to you the MM is in its worst state ever not its best if your so confident on that statement send a poll out to the enitre player base with the question "Is the MM working" I Dare you      

View PostDownie, on 10 September 2021 - 12:07 AM, said: Expand black list to 10k. It's badly needed, you are the ones responsible for the aggressive atmosphere by creating op tanks to an elite, unbalanced MM, pathetic RNG and idiotic map starting position, when I started this game people would wish everyone luck, Polish players would even say "Siema". Bringing that one back is your responsibility by creating a fun environment, currently, it is not the players fault it is yours entirely. I'm not even sure I need to comment on this, the irony is too obvious. But I'll add that when I first played WoT back in 2013/2014, in my first 100 battles I lost count of how often people wished horrible things on me and my family all while being high win rate and purple (aka it wasn't like I was playing bad), since joining WG in November 2020 and playing regularly again I haven't had anywhere near the abuse, not even had any once actually (tempting fate lol), nevermind as much as there was back then. So just as anecdotally as you, I can say with some surety that the chat has never been friendlier... This is sort of backed up too with people complaining how easily they get banned in chat for saying things.   Another gem from the WG cheerleader section.   I love the way you try to lblow you own trumpet saying what a great player you are so people dont abuse you so it must then be okay to abuse rubbish players   Have you considered its the fact you disabled chat to enemy team because of this exact reason and are therefore only getting 50% of the abuse?  And the fact people might know you work for wargaming and people might not be so keen to abuse you ?

HeatResistantBFG: I'm not even sure I need to comment on this, the irony is too obvious. But I'll add that when I first played WoT back in 2013/2014, in my first 100 battles I lost count of how often people wished horrible things on me and my family all while being high win rate and purple (aka it wasn't like I was playing bad), since joining WG in November 2020 and playing regularly again I haven't had anywhere near the abuse, not even had any once actually (tempting fate lol), nevermind as much as there was back then. So just as anecdotally as you, I can say with some surety that the chat has never been friendlier... This is sort of backed up too with people complaining how easily they get banned in chat for saying things.   Another gem from the WG cheerleader section.   I love the way you try to lblow you own trumpet saying what a great player you are so people dont abuse you so it must then be okay to abuse rubbish players   Have you considered its the fact you disabled chat to enemy team because of this exact reason and are therefore only getting 50% of the abuse?  And the fact people might know you work for wargaming and people might not be so keen to abuse you ?  

View Postlemanrussdemolisher, on 10 September 2021 - 12:18 AM, said:
This exactly why I have not even been bothered to answer his comments or that of his unicum buddy since they either answer from bits out of the context to serve their purpose, or mixing two of my comments to match their answer but therefore missing the point, I have better things to do than waste my time with them, I'm glad to see that the reactions of the normal players tend to lean towards my comments (of course with variation and modulations since we all have different game plays and preferences) and that the cry babies I mentioned in my first text stood like one man to try and demonstrate that what I said is untrue. Reading them, I'm obviously not playing the same game (but I remember it's just because I'm a bad players and so are everyone else I play with) and I wonder since we have reached the Nirvana in Tiers X how it comes that harmonious MM and tank balancing leads to games finishing with scores like 3/15, 1/15, 5/15 etc... (could that be me, being contagious and spreading my terrible gameplay to my doomed teammates?)   I'm definitely not the best player, I'm certainly not the worst - well except in arty since I'm a mediocre arty player - as it has been decided by my peer Tajj7 (with only 17% of my arties below 50% win out of 37 played and 33 mastered if I'm mediocre I wonder what Tajj7 considers himself to be with his 12 arties 3 masters and 33% below 50% win) and I'm totally a team player and someone that wants to enjoy the richness of the game in both the vehicles types and the various tiers.   So I repeat my plea to WG, make the games better balanced, make Clan Wars something that people want to play and not run away from, reward fidelity and involvement, stop insulting your vets

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View PostAerialss, on 10 September 2021 - 07:59 AM, said: A good clan using S.Conqs will still very much likely beat a not as good clan using chieftains, how much the tank makes a difference usually only becomes a thing in the top 0.1% or so. And in terms of the rest of this, it's like saying that you entered into a 100m race and when everyone else finished you were at 80m's, so it would be only fair that we let you start there next time... No. This is a thing to reward the high level of play, if you don't win then you don't win. It's that simple, it isn't meant to be for everyone. Anyone can enter/be involved but that doesn't stop some skill being required to get the rewards. And as already said, if you want to buy stuff in the auction save up and do so, no one is stopping you.   Are you serious about that ? So the new clans and players can face with S.Congs the chieftains ? And they dont have any hope that thay can grind the chief for clan battles beacouse its not anymore in rewards. So are the big clans can enjoy the benefit off chief and all the poor players can get rapped when the event is coming ? At least put back the chief for new clans to give a hope to earn it and give them a porpouse to play the competitive game. Clan Wars its not for everyone ? But the chief and the 907 in random battles affects everyone ? Its sad that you dont give a damn about new players and new clans , face chief with s.conq its like saying play tier 8 agains tier 10 in clan wars if you know what i mean. I disagree with may points of view with OP , but with clan wars and the chief erased from grind it was a big f.u all new players , have fun with this great event , you are not unicums so go f yourselfs from now , and you cant get the chief from now , its bad you dont played the game back 4-5 years at least you have the chance to get it.Good luck facing 6-7 with 6-7 S.Conq in clan wars, they will overotate you with their med speed and even hulldown they will outplayed you,

HeatResistantBFG:    So, going to answer here to all of it as a lot of repeated points. S.conq/comp point, so I will openly say I am not experienced with PC Competitive scene, I watch it and have watched it since the WGL era (met some of my now colleagues at Moscow in London back in 2017 IIRC)... So I would indeed be foolish to make a point with so little knowledge, except that wasn't my point, I used the information given to me by people like thePhilX + ApolypticalSnowflake as well as other staff who take part it comp and all the YouTubers and streamers within the CC and wider community I talk to every day. And the point I made was based on their far larger knowledge than my own, and I think it stands. You are of course more than welcome to disagree, but tell me why and don't just tell me I'm wrong or try to undermine my point by attacking me. I didn't say it IS okay to send abuse to anyone, I can see how the wording could have been better but my point with my stats/ability of the time was merely that I wasn't being sent abuse for being bad (as you can bet that someone would make that claim if I didn't say it), I was being sent abuse because why not. No sending of abuse is okay, and I spend enough time helping get action taken against people sending abuse that to accuse me of being pro abuse of anyone is farcical. But again it misses the main point, it was stated that in their experience the game has got more toxic, I was saying in mine it hasn't but that both points are purely anecdotal and so there can be no surety on it either way. And saying that with all chat turned off that 50% doesn't get seen/sent is a damn good argument for why it got turned off. Oh, and I run anonymiser and I highly doubt I'm known enough, I'm no eek or ectar, and I don't have a WG tag in-game and actually, the closest I have been to receiving abuse is because I work for WG.. funnily enough. And professionalism, I'm not really sure how you think the using of company made emotes on a company forum to talk to players would be something to be fired over... I took the time to go over every point they made and reply with double-checked answers and present as close to the fact as is possible to each one, I could have just ignored it and got on with my day and not spent a portion of it making sure a player who clearly isn't happy with things know that someone who is actually involved is listening and that in several cases I acknowledged that it is an area we are working on. So surely to dismiss everything I said would be to disagree with yourselves? I conceded some points and offered evidence/points contrary to some of those stated, but simply stating "mean WeeGee guy should be fired" achieves nothing. If my wording results in someone feeling insulted, mocked etc or anything then please bring it to my attention and explain how/why. It could be a simple misunderstanding or bad wording, but it will never be my intent and I will always happily remedy or explain any misunderstandings. Crew 2.0... I'm not really sure how far irony can be stretched before it becomes an entirely different thing, but bringing up "WG don't listen to feedback" and "crew 2.0" as complimenting points simply defeats your own arguments. How about I add some more, field mods had over 85% positive feedback from EU players on sandbox (yeah, I was shocked it was that high too), HE sandbox was 70% globally (yes that has become a meme, doesn't stop it being real and true and was the feedback from more than 140k people), Ammo Rework was dropped and sent back to the drawing board due to player feedback, overmatch rework was dropped and sent to cutting room floor... there are probably more I can't immediately think of. WoT has a history of testing things on the sandbox and if players dislike it, dropping it or reworking it until they do... it depends on the feedback. As people keep pointing out there is a lot of good in crew 2.0, but those good aren't deemed worth the negatives by players and so our job is to find a way to change those negatives until overall players want the change... or drop it entirely because it's not worth the dev time allocated.   I'm happy to have and for our players to have productive and critical conversations about the game, but keep it constructive, show proof and keep it civil, let's refrain from the name-calling and what are starting to more than just blur the lines of being criticism or insult. If this thread goes further down the uncivil discourse path, at any speed, I or one of the mods will shut it down. Thanks :honoring:

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