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It's time for WG for to improve the WN8 formula

Дата: 12.02.2021 15:11:56
View PostTheDrownedApe, on 12 February 2021 - 12:44 PM, said:   I guarantee you every purple player that isn't a reroll wants to win first and foremost. We started this game without Wn8, just a desire to win. Individuals only adopted it as a metric to track improvement once they realised WG wouldn't do this (and they still don't make it easy). WR is far more easily manipulated and no one really understands WGs metric so most give it a good ignoring.   However that isn't the OPs question, that has alrady been answered. OP try making your own or go look at the WOTLabs forum in their mathlab where numberous individuals have tried and you may want to create your own....just not RR please    

HeatResistantBFG:  I'd honestly disagree. How many streams do you see with "74% win rate, come watch" and how many do you see with "3/4xxx wn8" or "X many marks" or "top X player (using wn8 as the metric)? And almost anyone who plays enough and is purple will probs settle on a win rate anyhow IMO, that certainly seems to be the case anyhow. But then trying to 3 mark or boost WN8 from that point often is counter to winning. So I would accept that "most high wn8 players started with the intention to win and foremost" but that it will remain the case I don't. I should also add that isn't meant as a slight, I don't mean it in a bad way, my point was that if they are ONLY trying to improve win rate then often that will be a negative for trying to improve WN8. My examples would simply be a game where you are starting to lose heavily but you have won a flank, so your only way to win is to cap. So if you have 2/3 on the cap already and I just want to win then I would push to a strong point past the cap and defend against people coming back, take track shots over damage shots (unless kill is quickly possible). This would preserve some of my other stats as well but also would be the best way to get the win. But if I wanted best wn8 from that I would go to ambush their push to our cap and do as much damage as I can and let the base get reset. 
 Similarly, it could be that no one is capping and so you go and cap. May be how you win, but bad for the stets. Another, if you have 1 flank with 10 vs 3 and the other with 5 vs 12 and is starting to collapse be pushed, often the best way for the win is to either go back to your cap and stop them capping or push ahead of your push to again as before protect the cap. But further to it, sometimes not shooting is the best thing you can do. A lot of players don't trade well and as a result, sitting there with your alpha means they don't push, but them not pushing means you win.  AKA there is a lot of little situations where with enough tactical awareness you will win by not doing damage, therefore harming wn8 or a 3 mark grinds. Which goes back to my point, if they are only after improving a single thing like win rate or average damage concentrating on wn8 is sorta pointless. 

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