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Why this community is often called "toxic": divide et impera.

Дата: 23.07.2015 11:42:37
View PostkaneAAA, on 22 July 2015 - 11:03 PM, said:   So Ectar. Will you put it on the record that WG does not manipulate the mm in any and that it is totally random. And by saying that you would say that you have seen first hand how the mm works and have access to know how it works? Or are you just assuming? How much do you know about your company? 

Ectar:   I've been told by my employers that we don't manipulate MM to "keep players at a certain level" which is the crux of this discussion and it's always a topic that comes up from players at 50%ish win ratios who feel they should be at 60 to 70%.  I have not seen first hand how the MM works and even if I did I'm not a developer or coder so I couldn't tell you what the MM system looks like.  I believe my employers who have no reason to lie to me.   You accuse me of "assuming" yet you provide utterly zero evidence to counter what is being said. "I can't prove it exists, therefor it does because you can't prove it doesn't".  That's some pretty crazy way of thinking. That's like me saying we're all manipulated by dinosaurs from outerspace who live in our brains. I can't prove it, but then you can't prove it otherwise so it must be right.  - "Ah but Ectar here is proof" - That's not proof, that's what the dinsosaurs from outerspace living in our brains want you to think. They're good at covering their tracks. I can literary ignore/deny/avoid any counter point you offer about the dinsosaurs from outerspace living in our brains, because I know it's true. Doesn't matter what anyone else says, I know better. - Sounds crazy right?  

View PostkaneAAA, on 22 July 2015 - 11:03 PM, said: You aren't being honest with us, just presenting a very one sided argument. 

Ectar:    I'm not being honest? Why? Simply because I'm saying a conspiracy theory holds no weight? Because I'm not agreeing with a totally made up reasoning to justify why someone is not as good as they think they are?   Lets look at reasons why someone isn't as good as something they think they should be. They don't put time into practice/training/drilling They refuse to admit they perhaps can't reach the level they are setting themselves Rather than accept responsibility for their actions, they would rather blame something made up and impossible to prove. Because it's made up, no one can offer realistic counter (and if they do, more made up stuff is created which can't be countered with the same reasoning).  

View PostkaneAAA, on 22 July 2015 - 11:03 PM, said:  Educated people won't trust someone who can't give various aspects of the argument, you need to do that to gain trust of the community. Its just white noise for an empolyee of a company to say its all rosie. .

Ectar:   And where is the various aspects of the argument to show win ratio is manipulated?  A patent that's been logged? (companies have hundreds if not thousands of patents logged. That doesn't mean they're active). An individual player in the low 50's win ratio claiming he should really be 60% plus but the MM is holding him back?  how many educated people reading this thread are on the side of "Yes, MM is manipulated and it's manipulated only to me"?    

View PostkaneAAA, on 22 July 2015 - 11:03 PM, said:  ... i'm afraid in order to have an impact, you gotta do better than that and admit to certain things... the ol' "we are here to make you happy thing"......we know the game...we see where the company wants us to feel pain in the game... just admit it..

Ectar:   I've been posting here on the forums for over 3 years now. I've never lied once in that time and I never will. The minute someone asks me to knowingly lie to players, I'll refuse. If it's forced on me, I'll leave. You can search through my post history to see I make sure my answers are on point. I also have a fair amount of rep from the posts I do (not to mention the amount of posts I do). I'm pretty sure I have an impact on this community.    As I said before, angry and frustrated players are bad for business, especially in a free to play game because those players will just leave. The majority of our players will never spend a penny on our game, so keeping them playing is vital and you don't do that by having a system which which holds them at a randomly made up win ratio. (The random win ratio MM apparently is rigged to hold you at, will vary with every topic but is generally always around the win ratio of the opening poster making the claim).   The biggest problem with any "MM is rigged" conspiracies is that you always assume MM takes into consideration player skill, which it doesn't. Here is how it works.  Learn it, understand it, and stop blaming your performance on something made up and imaginary as you'll never ever improve with that way of thinking.

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