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Idea: Voluntary Forum Moderation

Дата: 29.04.2015 17:03:57
View PostGrumblingGrenade, on 28 April 2015 - 05:24 PM, said: Even so, I am somewhat disappointed at Ectar's answer, as he is simply saying what he always does, (understandable, as per the legal requirements of his employment, though it can get a little mundane), and the fact that he has not had the courtesy to return and respond to those challenging him is also a disappointment.

Ectar:   I'm sorry you feel that way, and I'm surprized that my answers can be taken as "saying what he always does".  That seems to me like you feel I just say the same things over and over without actually believing what I say or trying to do something about them.  No one ever says "Ectar, can you post in this thread" My forum coverage on WG's offical forums and on external sites like Wotlabs and reddit is my own initiative and my own gauging of where I feel WG presence is needed. Whilst a large part of my role is community interaction, spending half a day or longer replying to a single forum thread isn't a good use of my time, especially when every post doesn't need a reply and especially when I've already been pretty straight up in what I've already said. That means I'm being drawn into a thread and not answering with a level head.   Here's were we are currently: Some players - "We want moderation done differently and we'd like to do it ourselves, or you should pick different people to do it, preferably ones we suggest who are majority associated with a single clan/group of players" Me - "Sorry, we're not going to have a 2nd layer of moderation on the forums (With reasons given why). I will however pass on concerns about moderation to the people responsible." Some players "Well we think you're wrong Ectar, so we're going to keep on saying change needs to come based on what we say so"   I can't really add much else as I don't have anything else to say. Some of you feel one thing, but that in no way means you now must get what you ask for. You're making your case as if you have hundreds of backing on this subject or that it's a unified forum issue, when in reality it looks more like a united group from The Dingers. When you cycle through a "Hot Topic" and notice that was seens like lots of activity is actually just the same 10-15 people posting, it skews the real "Hotness" of the topic.  

View PostSpek_en_Bonen, on 29 April 2015 - 06:44 AM, said: Neg reps should NEVER have been added (we asked about it when introduced, we complained about when abused). But as usual (as with most issues) WG doesn't give a damn.   (And moderators wonder why boardmembers act strange towards moderators)    :medal: :facepalm:   No seriously...

Ectar:   Neg reps were removed on the NA forums as a trial.  Players for the most part hated it as they felt it was removing an option for players to show their displeasure or disagreement at something. It was later added back in. If you want feedback on something, you have to learn to take the bad with the good. Getting nothing but positive replies gives a false understanding of what people really think.  

View Postjabster, on 29 April 2015 - 12:47 PM, said:   You are joking aren't you? WG have  a habit of saying don't worry we will sort it out and then nothing happens.

Ectar:   Are you saying here you don't believe my sincerity? I've said it would be passed on, I didn't say there would be immediate changes.  I did say there wouldn't be a 2nd level of player moderation so yes, for that nothing will happen.  

View PostCroustibatFR, on 29 April 2015 - 12:57 PM, said:   Ultimately Ectar is not WG's boss, all he can do is report the problems and try to fix them with the ressources he has. And it looks like the EU team is not really liked by Minsk, so they are somehow stuck between the hammer and the anvil.

Ectar:   We're not liked by Minsk? :teethhappy:   I seem to keep saying this a lot recently, but please don't fall into the trap of believing everything you read from an unverified and anonymous source, as that means pretty much everything can be simply made up to suit a personal agenda.

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