Idea: Voluntary Forum Moderation
Дата: 29.04.2015 17:03:57
GrumblingGrenade, on 28 April 2015 - 05:24 PM, said: Even so, I am somewhat disappointed at Ectar's answer, as he is
simply saying what he always does, (understandable, as per the
legal requirements of his employment, though it can get a little
mundane), and the fact that he has not had the courtesy to
return and respond to those challenging him is also a
disappointment.Ectar: I'm sorry you feel that way, and I'm surprized that my
answers can be taken as "saying what he always does". That
seems to me like you feel I just say the same things over and over
without actually believing what I say or trying to do
something about them. No one ever says "Ectar, can you post
in this thread" My forum coverage on WG's offical forums and
on external sites like Wotlabs and reddit is my own initiative and
my own gauging of where I feel WG presence is needed. Whilst a
large part of my role is community interaction, spending half a day
or longer replying to a single forum thread isn't a good use of my
time, especially when every post doesn't need a reply and
especially when I've already been pretty straight up in what I've
already said. That means I'm being drawn into a thread and not
answering with a level head. Here's were we are currently:
Some players - "We want moderation done differently and we'd like
to do it ourselves, or you should pick different people to do it,
preferably ones we suggest who are majority associated with a
single clan/group of players" Me - "Sorry, we're not going to have
a 2nd layer of moderation on the forums (With reasons given
why). I will however pass on concerns about moderation to the
people responsible." Some players "Well we think you're wrong
Ectar, so we're going to keep on saying change needs to come based
on what we say so" I can't really add much else as I don't
have anything else to say. Some of you feel one thing, but that in
no way means you now must get what you ask for. You're making
your case as if you have hundreds of backing on this subject or
that it's a unified forum issue, when in reality it looks more like
a united group from The Dingers. When you cycle through a
"Hot Topic" and notice that was seens like lots of activity is
actually just the same 10-15 people posting, it skews the real
"Hotness" of the topic.
Spek_en_Bonen, on 29 April 2015 - 06:44 AM, said: Neg reps should NEVER have been added (we asked about it when
introduced, we complained about when abused). But as usual (as
with most issues) WG doesn't give a damn. (And moderators
wonder why boardmembers act strange towards moderators)
Ectar: Neg reps were removed on the NA forums as a trial.
Players for the most part hated it as they felt it was
removing an option for players to show their displeasure or
disagreement at something. It was later added back in. If you want
feedback on something, you have to learn to take the bad with the
good. Getting nothing but positive replies gives a false
understanding of what people really think.
jabster, on 29 April 2015 - 12:47 PM, said: You are joking aren't you? WG have a habit of saying
don't worry we will sort it out and then nothing happens.Ectar: Are you saying here you don't believe my sincerity? I've
said it would be passed on, I didn't say there would be
immediate changes. I did say there wouldn't be a 2nd level of
player moderation so yes, for that nothing will happen.
CroustibatFR, on 29 April 2015 - 12:57 PM, said: Ultimately Ectar is not WG's boss, all he can do is report
the problems and try to fix them with the ressources he has. And it
looks like the EU team is not really liked by Minsk, so they are
somehow stuck between the hammer and the anvil.Ectar: We're not liked by Minsk?
I seem to keep saying this
a lot recently, but please don't fall into the trap of believing
everything you read from an unverified and anonymous source, as
that means pretty much everything can be simply made up to
suit a personal agenda.
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