Sandbox Crew 2.0 - Second Iteration

NekoPuffer_PPP, on 19 July 2021 - 04:02 PM, said: WG, look! Feedback!:


PROJECT_Callum, on 19 July 2021 - 04:05 PM, said: Why does it have to be so complicated? just keep it as it is, and if you feel the need to change stuff, rework some of the useless skills, or add some new ones in


GrayDwarf, on 19 July 2021 - 04:06 PM, said: That was the case in the first test but I somehow can't find the corresponding information in the news post or the video. Where did you find it?


Kuratovsky, on 19 July 2021 - 05:58 PM, said:
Let's count together then. Retraining for credits currently costs ~40k crew exp for ~100k credits on average. Imagine you move this crew 4 times from tier 6 to tier 10 as you progress upwards. That's ~160k crew exp and ~400k credits lost altogether.
  In the new system, a retraining costs ~160k crew exp for an experienced crew and 500k credits. The number of required retrainings won't change: although a crew can be used for up to 3 tanks, separate retrainings are still required. Which means 4 times ~160k crew exp and 500k credits, so ~640k crew exp (instead of ~160k) and 2M credits (instead of ~400k).*

Do you understand now?

* Note that these numbers are rough estimates only and take into account the example WG has given. I have no information about the exp requirements of new crew skill levels. Still left this explanation as it is, since it illustrates clearly how moving crews around simply isn't a viable option in the currently proposed system.


feies_vlad, on 19 July 2021 - 06:17 PM, said: That is the part about the crew 2.0... YOU HAVE TO RETRAIN the crew even if you unlock those "tank slots" for the crew... And I already mentioned if I wanna grind a new line aswell and I have a good crew for that line, moving the crew from one tank to the next tank, WILL REQUIRE retraining which means 500k credits each retrain and lose alot of crew xp aswell with each retrain... How hard is it to understand...


SfMercenary1312, on 19 July 2021 - 08:19 PM, said: Let's take a quick answering to a poll about this. Let's see how poeple feel about this. 
http://forum.worldof...3-crew-20-poll/


L0rd_0f_War, on 19 July 2021 - 10:37 PM, said: Some much needed improvements (as per the video, will confirm later myself) from the first terrible Crew 2.0 iteration. HOWEVER:     2.  The instructors are once again poorly implemented with some instructors giving way more bonus (read P2W) for bought crews like Sebaton. Anyone too poor to not have those special crews or have been accumulating Twitch commanders over the last few years is going to be left behind (i.e., even more of a gap between P2W and F2P crews). Such a bad idea.   WG needs to stop trying to create and even larger disparity between paying and F2P players. VH/BIA and Instructors are just the worst of many bad and poorly thought out ideas. From a 4/5 person crew per tank, we will now be having a 4 Instructor crew (which can be used for 3 tanks if you pony up the gold). How is that an improvement for regular players who don't have a ton of instructors??


Dont_call_me_j3fr0, on 20 July 2021 - 12:51 AM, said: Why we gotta lose all our hard earned progress on various crews????? You lookin to lose more players WG?!?!? Why not jus add new crew skills if you wanna try new things, not this....


Shrewd_Ape_In_The_Mist, on 20 July 2021 - 01:10 AM, said: We would all be well advised to protest once again because when it goes live there'll be no going back.


Gremlin182, on 20 July 2021 - 01:49 AM, said: For those complaining about the huge cost of retraining crews.   You get to retrain your crews for free Ill just repeat that in case you missed it first time You get to retrain your crews for free.   Start sandbox the crew you have in say your KV1 had before the chage 4 skills. After the change to 2.0 you have the same skills and maybe some more skills. If you still like those skills then fine carry on. If you want to change them for some new skills you can do that for free. If you want to change them a second time then you pay.   Some skills/perks apparently come for free there are 3 of them.   There are maybe things to complain about and still some unknowns but little point in pointing out problems that do not exist. I have close to 200 crewed tanks and some spare crews sitting in the garage with no tank mostly these came from premium tanks. If I keep those I guess I will have to pay to retrain them for tanks as and when I need them. But I would have to do that anyway with or without crew 2.0.   I do aggree the trainers and the advantages they might give paying players a bit of an advantage. ok maybe a big advantage lets try this out and see. Currently the differences between a 4 skill crew and one with more skills isnt that great imo. Once you have BIA then the usual sixth sense snapshot clutch braking or smooth ride  etc then either repairs and or camo. With those you have the main skillset for any tank.   So yes on paper some will maybe have 7 or 8 skill crews which could be powerful. On the other hand crew 2.0 also gives every player sixth sense triangulation and mentor I will try it out give feedback and then wait.   BTW just because your particular feedback was not addressed does not mean there is a vast army of players with the same concerns. Some will love the changes some want different changes. Not getting precisely what you wanted does not mean WG did not listen. If they made all the changes players asked for we would have SPGs no SPGs premium ammo for credits for gold and no premium ammo.  


mynameispuffs, on 20 July 2021 - 09:05 AM, said: As I said for the first iteration, the proof will be in the testing, but can't say I'm currently convinced on the idea as a whole. Clearly, there has been some reworks for things that desperately needed fixing, but not enough to give me that warm fuzzy feeling that all is well in world.    Currently going through the lower tiers with a friend who is brand new to the game, so I asked him what he thought of the current system. He thought it frustrating to have to grind for sixth sense, (Crew 2.0 solves this now) but otherwise all is laid out in a cohesive manner, and was easy to understand. After showing him the 2.0 video, he could only offer up "Why do this?".