Sandbox 2021: Try Out the Reworked HE Shells!

BethHarmon, on 12 February 2021 - 03:55 PM, said: I do not like the changes to HE on the sandbox server. If anything, I do not think the way HE works currently on the live server is a big issue.  If WG is looking to do something to the "HE spamming" that is going on, it is very simple. Make tanks that are well-armored to have weak points. In 2015, when people saw a E5 or FV215B playing hull down, for most if not all the players, I don't think the first thing that came to their minds was "Ah crap, I need to fire HE at this tank". Cause they are tanks that have weak points, they are still pretty well-armored when sitting hull down, but weak points gave players the chance to still do damage to them with their normal rounds. And that is why if people see an E5 or 215B playing hull down in 2021, their first reaction will not be to shoot HE at them either, at least for most. When you see a Chieftain say for example playing completely hull down, players quickly switch to HE shells because there is not a weak point for them to deal damage. Their only hope is to fire HE at them and splash them, well other than rushing into a group of enemies just to put an AP shot in the Chieftain's hull that is.  So, a simple solution for the HE spamming situation, make well-armored tanks have weak points. Until then, HE can stay the way it is.   


guest273, on 12 February 2021 - 01:46 PM, said: I just came here to ask where on the main server we will have the window to redeem the token items.

Apparently this HE rework is like a big discussion of some sort?

Cmon guys, do you see clowns when you look in the mirror?

Sandbox = preview of the next updates since 90% of the time WG just add the changes anyway. You get to play the new update before hand and get some prem acc / credits for it!
It's a win / win situation.


basin79, on 13 February 2021 - 03:39 PM, said: It's obvious to everyone the ONLY reason WG will bring in the HE changes are because now too many tanks are choosing to shoot HE. And HE shells are cheap.

Don't know why they just don't admit it and make HE shells more expensive and keep them the same.


McTomic, on 14 February 2021 - 04:01 PM, said: I tried the KV-2 with normal HE and here is my findings:
- new HE is pointless compared to before. It pens low armour as before, but way too many bouncing shots, non-penetrations or silly low damage on anything with armour. Sure you can aim for the weak spots, but can you hit them? No. Derp guns are hitting roughly where you want and with RNG can't reliably damage anything with armour. - not sure who else was testing HE, but it certainly wasn't the players on the enemy team, because I was shot twice with HE, once with AP and rest was gold ammo, APCR or HESH. What the hell is the point of testing if you let people shoot ammo that was not changed? if you can remove training rooms, I'm sure you can remove non-testing ammo. And you ask why there is so much premium ammo shot? Because people want to complete missions for rewards main game. You want HE really tested, make missions for HE penetrations. - I tried testing Pz. IV H with derp gun. 30 minutes of waiting for game - is not something I will repeat again. - if you want consistant/predictable damage, you have to hit the weak spot, so turn off the RNG for durp guns, allow pixel perfect aiming and then we can talk about consistant damage. If the shot goes randomly somewhere, where is the predictability of the damage supposed to come from? No splash, no pen, no damage... oh, consistant 0 damage is the point. Got it. Got to load gold. Sure.
Conclusion: Resounding no to proposed HE changes.
Some thoughts on comments I've read so far: - Personally I haven't really experienced HE spam on any of tanks. If people want to do small amounts of damage to me while I'm shooting AP at them, I am happy with that trade. Maybe victims of HE spam are players in OP tanks in OP positions unable to achieve their desired damage? - complaining about OP FV one shots: 1st - if you're getting one shot by either FV, it's probably using premium ammo not normal HE. 2nd - if you know the FV is the bushes ahead, use your skills and maneuver somewhere else. But I guess its easier to press W and cry after on forums.


reddog102, on 14 February 2021 - 10:19 PM, said: Trialed the Kv2 with HE shells today, 0 dog. This tank is dead! So is WoT if this change goes live. Actively looking for a new game after 9 years.


QurwaDis_Commander, on 15 February 2021 - 10:53 AM, said: Where do I exchange the tokens in the main client?