Take the Bull by the Horns in the Lunar Challenge

Geno1isme, on 11 February 2021 - 01:48 PM, said: Your comparison doesn't quite fit. The proper comparison would be that the store offers you a coupon for 30% off the next bottle of milk for doing some chores, but refuses to sell the milk itself at the regular price but only with some fancy packaging as a special offer for 7 €. But if you invest the next two weeks of your life to work for free for the store you'll get a 100% coupon.   Of course in the physical world that would be illegal ...


lbot, on 10 February 2021 - 11:06 AM, said: Tried to find at least one definitive "for" this tank.   400 alpha - countered by 14,3 CD. If WoT offered more or less guaranteed hits/penetrations/damage every shot, this could do. But it is too often a "miss", "not penetrated", "300 instead of 400", stay on line, wait for another shot, please, thank you for your patience" kind of deal. IMO, it's better to have more chances to do at least some damage with lower alpha. Rate of fire rules. STG has 390 alpha and 11,5 CD. Maybe even 10,5 after rebalance.   233 penetration. It's good, but not THAT good, considering the above paragraph. Liberte has 232 pen, 8,5 CD with 300 alpha and tier-decent full frontal armor (except for cupola). 299 gold pen - some (many?) people don't care, because we use premium tier 8's for silver farming or just for tier 8 gaming without premium account.   Shell velocity - a matter of habit. If you tend to play 1 tank in a series of games, you will get used to almost any velocity, if you tend to switch tanks often, you will find it harder going from 1300 to, say, 950 or even lower, which many tanks have.   Armor - seems nice, but nothing fancy because of the 2 cupolas. Still to be seen in action, but cupolas will not go anywhere.   -8 depression is good. By the way, straight backwards depression is only -5.   Dispersion values for hull and turret turning are equal to 274a and noticeably worse than STG.   Final dispersion of 0,30 is equal to STG's. It's good. But who knows the undisclosed dispersion values within the aiming circle? Only WG does   Aiming time is good. Partly countered by dispersion upon hull/turret rotation.   Turning speeds of hull and turret are slower than of 274a or STG.   Terrain resistances are equal or worse than those of 274a and especially of STG's.   Camouflage values are worse than those of 274a and especially of STG's.   View range is 370 which is really bad. STG has the same and, being basically a TD it lacks view range greatly. Optics go in expense of rate of fire or aiming time.   So, from raw numbers at tanks.gg 122 TM turns out to be good at best, but mediocre at most. Just my opinion.


kQMA, on 10 February 2021 - 11:20 AM, said: Take these marathons as a sale... i don't take them at all because i'm smarter. 

(Enjoy 17.5 seconds reload on a tier 8 medium tank, it will be fun.) 


Sturmi_0545, on 10 February 2021 - 02:03 PM, said: I wish WG would at least be more smoothly criminal, than just plainly predatory. I wish they'd do it a bit like in WoWs and alternatively offer this tank for 250.000 free XP for example. This should boost free XP conversion a bit which would drain some gold. But I guess this solution would be too complex for the simple minds at WG, and not squeezing the playerbase hard enough.


Shrewd_Ape_In_The_Mist, on 11 February 2021 - 06:10 AM, said: At this rate you'll outwit the mobile games with your boorish and predatory monetization system WG. If you didn't already.   Hard pass. The tank seems not worth it even for just being chinese and that reload time is just absurd.  For me to waste my life few hours a day for 10 days literally betting my sanity and the well being of my keyboard you'd have to come up with something really broken as a reward.   Also I don't understand why people complain about the camo... Clown camo in a clown game; everything fits. No, but seriously - I like the camo of all things. This game has never at any point in time been historically accurate and clown camos are being added for a long time now and this one is exceptionally good. When you see that tank with that camo on the battlefield next to race cars, russian ufo tanks and other clown camos it won't look as ridiculous.


VanGore78, on 11 February 2021 - 08:52 AM, said: So much crying here...pathetic   Participation in this event is OPTIONAL.Nobody is forced to do it. So please, give us a break.    I own all Marathon tanks and never spent more than 10-20% of the initial value. Quite some I managed to get for free. EBR, Bourrasque, Progetto, Lis, 44-100 are nothing but my most played premium tanks in Random, Stronghold, and Frontline. All excellent tanks.   So far most of the marathon tanks were good, often way better than the hyped Loot Box offers, with the of exception 703.   Is the 122M a good tank? We will see what CCs say at launch day. 


Bucur03, on 10 February 2021 - 01:08 AM, said: "The tank is available for everyone just like any other marathon. "--- worst joke ever! WG never give chance to a player who for example started one or two years ago to play, but for one  who play by many years and  had good chances to get Chieftain, 279e, is easier. In campaign you afford teams full of 279e and Chieftain...and wg promote just this guys to have another piece of cake. On marathon be honest and tell me why base xp is lower than usual???? Take one tank before event, and on event, make same amount of damage and see. Guys i know you need to make money but you change game every day, today players need xp to won something, than wg try to not make xp, tomorrow players need win, so wg make you teams reds and you lose, ohhh give you a chance to win, but just if u able to kill 15 enemies every batle. 


NicoPudel04, on 10 February 2021 - 07:22 AM, said: Wow ...    We know you have a job dude, but c'mon .... there is kind of a limit to how much you can pretend not to get it (and i actually wrote on the first few pages how you have been altering the marathon offering less over time, watering it down).   The tank is going to be a 20-25 euro value tank on a 65 euro bundle. For it to be worth it you would need to get 80% discount at least. Not everyone can no-life through that.   17.5s, reduced to 14s. No it's not ok for that reload. Feel free to open up tanks.gg and compare it with 274A, STG, Rev and so on. It will work on the RU server where turbo battles are less prominent, but on the EU server where turbobattles have become the norm ... it will suck big time.   That's actually the part that sucks the most. On one hand the statement that you can get it for free is disingenous (you have to nolife it for something that is getting far worse and has steadily reduced value in newer and newer bundles), and on another hand it is not breaking the game for sure. And ppl want to applaud the 'not break game' bit ... except for the fact that when it comes to a russian tank, they tend to break the game. You addopted this 'balanced' approach 2yrs ago or so, and you delivered us 703 II (122) and 274A in the meantime. 703 now has a 52.35% winrate on the EU server with 152k owners (that we know of); and 274A has a 51.45% winrate with 67k owners. IS-3A who is considered 'bad' has a 52.25% winrate with 129k owners. Defender is 52.64% with 147k owners and 252U has 53.06% with 69k owners.   So this 'balanced' approach seems to be for other nations, not so much for mother russia.