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Subject: Geçmişe Dönüş: Ağır Çelik Hafta Sonu
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l3oomerangg, on 13 December 2013 - 02:12 AM, said: Etkinlik güzelde, şöyle bazı tanklara toplu indirim verdiğiniz
zaman garaj yuvası ve kışla indirimi de koysanız yanında, tadından
yenmeyecek yani. Listedeki 4 tankı almak istiyorum, tabii bunun
için 4 garaj yuvası boşaltmam gerekecek :)
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Subject: This is how you make a christmas surprise to your customers
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Ectar: Ok guys I'll ask you all this; After the 25th of
December. Post in this thread and let me know if we surprised
you or not and let me know if you were satisfied with what was
available. If not, please let me know what realistic
expectations you had that were not met and how we could make next
year better. (asking for discontinued tanks or tanks that have
never previously been available in the gift shop for example
isn't realistic).
Subject: type59 u winter suprise kalendaru?
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Hunter1911: Ja sam izgleda jedini koji voli Lowe...
Subject: type59 u winter suprise kalendaru?
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TheKroo: Ja sam izgleda jedini koji voli Lowe...
Subject: Türk komünitesine gelen yabancılar
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AlleinWolf, on 09 December 2013 - 07:59 PM, said: birkaç seferdir şahit oluyorum yabancı biri gelip konuyla hiç
alakası olmayan postlar yollayıp gidiyorlar ve hiç cevap atmıyorlar
arada milleti karıştıranlarda olmuyor değil(trollde
diyebiliriz)bazıları beni sinir etmiyor değil ama sizinde
görüşlerinizi almak isterim bu konuda.bu
konuda olduğu gibi.acaba bunlar roaming için görevlendirilen
arkadaşlarmı?eğer öyleyse varsın olmasın bu roaming olayı.bunun
narsisti var,nasyonalisti var,noobu var,var oğlu var.
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Ishtara: Türkçe konular altında bu tarz yabancı oyuncuların
yorumlarını gördüğünüz zaman lütfen raporlayın. eulash ve
BlackLycan arkadaşlarımız bu raporlarla ilgilenip yorumları
kaldıracak ve oyunculara trollingden ötürü gerekli yaptırımı
uygulayacaklardır.
Subject: Discounts.Now or later?
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Ectar: Doubtful that you'll see a 50% discount on tier VII. I would
suggest however to anyone in any situation that involves buying
something.If you're not in a hurry to purchase something and want
to wait to a specific date... Then wait. Whilst there is lots
of potential situations with different outcomes, only 1 thing is
guaranteed. - If you buy it now, it's not discounted.
Subject: Latviešu klani
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OldFox: Diskusiju par pareizrakstisanu parnesu saja topika: http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/331504-diskusija-par-pareizrakstisanu/page__st__40
Subject: Yıl Sonu Şenliklerimize Katılın!
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Ufuko, on 10 December 2013 - 05:32 PM, said: Video olayını anlamadım gerçek hayattan videom çekiyoruz yoksa oyun
içerisinden videomu? Oyun içerisinden çekiyorsak birşey yaparız
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Ishtara: Oyun içerisinden değil, kendi çektiğiniz "mutlu yıllar",
sene sonu veya kış temalı videoları bekliyoruz.
Subject: Diskusija par pareizrakstisanu
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OldFox: Laba duskusija, bet Klanu sadala vinai nav ista vieta.
Subject: Video: Mekanik Açıklama - Eşleştirme
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Ishtara: Arkadaşlar, alakalı makale ile birlikte konu başlığını buradan takip edebilirsiniz.
Subject: Flashback: Heavy Steel Weekend
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dUG1, on 12 December 2013 - 09:19 PM, said: Not true Ectar, sorry. I have been here long enough
to remember buying Ferdinand on 50% discount for Ferdinand´s
Porsche birthday, as well as buying Pershing for Patton´s birthday.
Back then, specials, while not being available each weekend,
were actually special and meant something - no wonder I remember
those 2, but cant remember which one we had last weekend ![:harp: :harp:](http://cdn-frm-eu.wargaming.net/wot/eu/4.1/style_emoticons/wot/Smile_harp.gif)
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Ectar: Those 2 individual discounts were one off events and not a
normal discount. Yes in the past bonuses were higher along
with discounts (only on tier VII and lower), you also frequently
had events where it was 1 tank per nation and not all in a tier
(for example it would be the Tiger P or Tiger H, the
Hellcat or M36). It's not just in Europe but across all
regions where the bonuses have been toned down. Please don't
start saying that "back in the day" things were better because the
first thing you'll need to show is a direct comparison (as in
multiple months, not random individual weekend
specials) of when things were apparently better. I can assure you
that "back in the day" the playerbase was less demanding and things
weren't taking for granted as much as they are now. As
I said earlier with the addition of weekly, weekend, and monthly
missions this means that the in-game discounts and credit
boosts can't be the same as they used to be. We're also
conscious that the "extra help" that these events are intended
to be, has been forgotten. It used to be "Oh hey cool, a
garage discount" whereas now it's. "I know there is such a thing
as garage discounts, so give me one now". When
something becomes to regular you don't see it anymore as an extra.
It becomes an expected regular feature/occurrence. In this
thread someone drew a negative that this event doesn't cater to low
tier. Not that long ago we did a low tier event and people
complained there was nothing for high tiers. - now you might
read this and think "Well why not just do an event that works
for low and high tier?" but then what happens the week
after? Everyone expects the same because last week it was like
that, or this week we're not catering to XXXX. Players wanted
discount crew training and when it was added one of the first
comments was to swap it out for discount
garage/barrack slots instead. There is requests for discount
garage slots now, I can guarantee you that if we had it now, people
would just complain later in the month that they can't buy new
tanks because garage slots are full price so we should discount
them then too. I've seen comments in other threads with
things like "Worst month ever" and "what you do later doesn't make
up for now". Where is this attitude coming from? do you even
realize the tone of your message? Again too many people
are acting like we've given you something then taken it away, or
promised something that hasn't came. Look at these
weekend events for exactly what they are. An extra bonus for
players when playing the game. They are not the only reason for you
to play this weekend and they are not something which is always
going to be applicable to you as an individual player. "You
don't do enough 5x exp events!" - *do a 5x exp event* - "great
nothing but noobs playing now, I can't win they're always in my
team, stupid 5x exp events" "You don't discount high tiers" -
*discount high tiers* - "Awesome, now all the noobs can rush
into high tiers and ruin my matches" "You should give tanks credit
boosts for specific types of tanks or tiers" *add credit boosts to
tiers or types* - "OMG now this weekend the game is full
of TDs/Heavies/Mediums/German/USSR/British etc etc tanks" "When
will premium tanks be discounted?" *discount premium tanks* - "not
fair, tier VIII is filled with wallet warriors now!" or "Screw you
WG, now there is nothing but E25's everywhere" "It's always crew
training, I want first win bonuses" /"You've done first win 3 times
now, I want crew training" Above examples is pretty
much standard replies we see. Every time the missions that are
active at the same time are also completely ignored. Now
regarding the claims of "this isn't a special" - you're taking
the word too literary. Even then if you're still going to be
specific about the word it basically means: Something
distinguished by a unique or unusual quality. Better, great or
otherwise unusual from what is the norm. The "norm or normal" is
having no bonuses or discounts at all on the weekend. The
norm isn't want you got last week/month, what another region got,
or what you think the event should be. I can honestly
say that when the seasonal events are announced, everyone will be
surprised and even the most skeptical/cynical people will struggle
to find something to complain about. I can't wait to see everyone's
reactions.
Subject: Takım Dağılım Sistemi (MM)
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Ishtara: Herkese merhaba, Genel tartışmalar bölümünde Takım Dağılım
Sistemi nam-ı değer Match Making (MM) sistemi hakkında birçok
başlık açılmakta. Sizden ricam konuyu farklı başlıklar altında
tartışmak yerine konu hakkındaki tüm yorumları bu başlık altında
yazmanız. Bu bir geri bildirim/şikayet başlığı değildir sadece
forumdaki dağılmayı önlemek amaçlı açıyorum. Aynı zamanda MM
hakkındaki son makalemizi
burada ve son videomuzu da burada
bulabilirsiniz. (Videoyu Türkçe izleyebilmek için altyazıları aktif
hale getirmeniz gerekmektedir.) İyi forumlar!
Subject: skills and perks?
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azdsn, on 13 December 2013 - 03:53 PM, said: Pa ja racunam da samo ostatak posade dobija vise iskustva kao sto
pise. Na mojoj posadi nije bilo razlike nakon puno iskustva i
sklonio sam skill zato sto mi nije bas jasan i ako je tako kao sto
pise,nije ni radio tada kad sam ga isprobavao.
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Hunter1911: cp iz jednog starog vodica Mentor: +10% iskustva
posadi
+0.1% svoj posadi-- osim zapovjednika-- Po nivou vjeŠtine. (odnosno, @100%, to je 10% bonusa svim članovima posade osim zap.) Bonus dijeluje samo na buduće bitke, ne obračunava se na proŠle bitke, odnosno bitke prije nego ste izučili vjeŠtinu. Kumulacija: Nema.
I.a., _Loner_ nudi detaljnu analizu ove vjeŠtine:
Pogledajmo iznos iskustva potreban članu posade za njegovu vjeŠtinu:
1. vjeŠtina = 10000, 2. vjeŠtina = 20000, 3. vjeŠtina = 40000
Stopa dobivanja nove vjeŠtine je eksponencijalna, odnosno 2n, ili jednostavno možete ovo shvatiti da vjeŠtina nakon prve, dobija deprecijaciju 2n!
Ako razvijate Mentor kao prvu vjeŠtinu onda donosi (10% - 0%) / 2 = 5% po članu posade.
Nakon toga je samo ravna stopa u iznosu 10% dodatnog iskustva po članu posade nakon Što dosegnut 100% mentor s normalnim iznosom bitki.
Bez mentora:
Pretpostavimo da neki tenk ima prosjek iskustva 750 po bitci. Bitke potrebne da se dobije prva vjeŠtina za četveročlanu posadu su: 10000 / (750/4) = 53.33 ili 54 bitke
Druga vjeŠtina: 20000 / (750/4) = 106.67 ili 107 bitki
Treća vjeŠtina: 40000 / (750/4) = 213.33 ili 214 bitki
Četvrta vjeŠtina: 80000 / (750/4) = 426.67 ili 427 bitki
S mentorom:
Pretpostavimo da neki tenk ima prosjek iskustva 750 po bitci. Bitke potrebne da se dobije prva vjeŠtina za četveročlanu posadu su:
10000 [(750 / 4) * 105.%] = 50.79 ili 51 bitka
Druga vjeŠtina: 20000 / [(750 / 4) * 110%] = 96.97 ili 97 bitki
Treća vjeŠtina: 40000 / [(750 / 4) * 110%] = 193.94 ili 194 bitke.
Četvrta vjeŠtina: 80000 / [(750 / 4) * 110%] = 387.87 ili 388 bitki.
Kada bi osoba imala tri vjeŠtine, uŠtedjela bi (54 + 107 + 214) - (51 + 97 + 194) = 33 bitke
Zaključak: Mentor smanjuje broj bitki kako idete gore. Je li uistinu koristan? Ovisi koliko bitki namjeravate uložiti u vaŠ tenk. Međutim, bitki uŠtede mijenjate za vjeŠtinu koja vam ne koristi u bitci.
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ProŠirena matematika:
Bez mentora:
Peta vjeŠtina: 160000 / (750/4) = 854 bitke
Šesta vjeŠtina: 320000 / (750/4) = 1707 bitki
Sedma vjeŠtina: 640000 / (750/4) = 3414 bitki
Osma vjeŠtina: 1200000 / (750/4) = 6400 bitki
S mentorom:
Peta vjeŠtina: 160000 / [(750 / 4) * 110%] = 776 bitki (uŠteda 78 bitki)
Šesta vjeŠtina: 320000 / [(750 / 4) * 110%] = 1552 bitki (uŠteda 155 bitki )
Sedma vjeŠtina: 640000 / [(750 / 4) * 110%] = 3104 bitke (uŠteda 310 bitki )
Osma vjeŠtina: 1200000 / [(750 / 4) * 110%] = 5819 bitki(uŠteda 581 bitki)
U primjeru s prosjekom od 750 iskustva pi bitci:
Tijekom vremena prikupljanja osme sekundarne vjeŠtina uŠtedjeti ćete si 1,196 bitki s mentorom za Što bi vam trebalo 11, 981 bitka u tenku (bez privatnog života)
Tijekom vremena prikupljanja sedme sekundarne vjeŠtina uŠtedjeti ćete si 615 bitki s mentorom za Što bi vam trebalo 6,162 bitke u tenku (izvodivo)
Tijekom vremena prikupljanja Šeste sekundarne vjeŠtine uŠtedjeti ćete si 305 bitki s mentorom za Što bi vam trebalo 3,058 bitki u tenku
Zaključak: Ako planirate odigrati 10,000+ igara svakako koristite mentor i uŠtedite si 1,000 bitki. Ako planirate odigrati 5,000 igri ili manje u tenku (kao većina normalnih ljudi) onda nije vrijedno.[/sup][/SPOILER]
Savjet Stavite ga prvog za maksimalnu učinkovitost; napomena: poboljŠanje treninga je % of zapovjednikovog treninga u ovoj vjeŠtini, odnosno., na 10%, posada dobija +1% bonus, na 20%, 2%, itd.; napomena2: ova vjeŠtina može biti uklonjena sa zapovjednika u bilo koje vrijeme, kako bi se zamijenila drugom vjeŠtinom/talentom; odnosno, jednom kada smatrate treniranje posade gotovim; ili, kada je trening posade gotov, ova vjeŠtina nema daljnje funkcionalnosti; napomena3: Zapovjednik ne dobija bonus od ove vjeŠtine, samo ostatak posade.
+0.1% svoj posadi-- osim zapovjednika-- Po nivou vjeŠtine. (odnosno, @100%, to je 10% bonusa svim članovima posade osim zap.) Bonus dijeluje samo na buduće bitke, ne obračunava se na proŠle bitke, odnosno bitke prije nego ste izučili vjeŠtinu. Kumulacija: Nema.
I.a., _Loner_ nudi detaljnu analizu ove vjeŠtine:
Pogledajmo iznos iskustva potreban članu posade za njegovu vjeŠtinu:
1. vjeŠtina = 10000, 2. vjeŠtina = 20000, 3. vjeŠtina = 40000
Stopa dobivanja nove vjeŠtine je eksponencijalna, odnosno 2n, ili jednostavno možete ovo shvatiti da vjeŠtina nakon prve, dobija deprecijaciju 2n!
Ako razvijate Mentor kao prvu vjeŠtinu onda donosi (10% - 0%) / 2 = 5% po članu posade.
Nakon toga je samo ravna stopa u iznosu 10% dodatnog iskustva po članu posade nakon Što dosegnut 100% mentor s normalnim iznosom bitki.
Bez mentora:
Pretpostavimo da neki tenk ima prosjek iskustva 750 po bitci. Bitke potrebne da se dobije prva vjeŠtina za četveročlanu posadu su: 10000 / (750/4) = 53.33 ili 54 bitke
Druga vjeŠtina: 20000 / (750/4) = 106.67 ili 107 bitki
Treća vjeŠtina: 40000 / (750/4) = 213.33 ili 214 bitki
Četvrta vjeŠtina: 80000 / (750/4) = 426.67 ili 427 bitki
S mentorom:
Pretpostavimo da neki tenk ima prosjek iskustva 750 po bitci. Bitke potrebne da se dobije prva vjeŠtina za četveročlanu posadu su:
10000 [(750 / 4) * 105.%] = 50.79 ili 51 bitka
Druga vjeŠtina: 20000 / [(750 / 4) * 110%] = 96.97 ili 97 bitki
Treća vjeŠtina: 40000 / [(750 / 4) * 110%] = 193.94 ili 194 bitke.
Četvrta vjeŠtina: 80000 / [(750 / 4) * 110%] = 387.87 ili 388 bitki.
Kada bi osoba imala tri vjeŠtine, uŠtedjela bi (54 + 107 + 214) - (51 + 97 + 194) = 33 bitke
Zaključak: Mentor smanjuje broj bitki kako idete gore. Je li uistinu koristan? Ovisi koliko bitki namjeravate uložiti u vaŠ tenk. Međutim, bitki uŠtede mijenjate za vjeŠtinu koja vam ne koristi u bitci.
----
ProŠirena matematika:
Bez mentora:
Peta vjeŠtina: 160000 / (750/4) = 854 bitke
Šesta vjeŠtina: 320000 / (750/4) = 1707 bitki
Sedma vjeŠtina: 640000 / (750/4) = 3414 bitki
Osma vjeŠtina: 1200000 / (750/4) = 6400 bitki
S mentorom:
Peta vjeŠtina: 160000 / [(750 / 4) * 110%] = 776 bitki (uŠteda 78 bitki)
Šesta vjeŠtina: 320000 / [(750 / 4) * 110%] = 1552 bitki (uŠteda 155 bitki )
Sedma vjeŠtina: 640000 / [(750 / 4) * 110%] = 3104 bitke (uŠteda 310 bitki )
Osma vjeŠtina: 1200000 / [(750 / 4) * 110%] = 5819 bitki(uŠteda 581 bitki)
U primjeru s prosjekom od 750 iskustva pi bitci:
Tijekom vremena prikupljanja osme sekundarne vjeŠtina uŠtedjeti ćete si 1,196 bitki s mentorom za Što bi vam trebalo 11, 981 bitka u tenku (bez privatnog života)
Tijekom vremena prikupljanja sedme sekundarne vjeŠtina uŠtedjeti ćete si 615 bitki s mentorom za Što bi vam trebalo 6,162 bitke u tenku (izvodivo)
Tijekom vremena prikupljanja Šeste sekundarne vjeŠtine uŠtedjeti ćete si 305 bitki s mentorom za Što bi vam trebalo 3,058 bitki u tenku
Zaključak: Ako planirate odigrati 10,000+ igara svakako koristite mentor i uŠtedite si 1,000 bitki. Ako planirate odigrati 5,000 igri ili manje u tenku (kao većina normalnih ljudi) onda nije vrijedno.[/sup][/SPOILER]
Savjet Stavite ga prvog za maksimalnu učinkovitost; napomena: poboljŠanje treninga je % of zapovjednikovog treninga u ovoj vjeŠtini, odnosno., na 10%, posada dobija +1% bonus, na 20%, 2%, itd.; napomena2: ova vjeŠtina može biti uklonjena sa zapovjednika u bilo koje vrijeme, kako bi se zamijenila drugom vjeŠtinom/talentom; odnosno, jednom kada smatrate treniranje posade gotovim; ili, kada je trening posade gotov, ova vjeŠtina nema daljnje funkcionalnosti; napomena3: Zapovjednik ne dobija bonus od ove vjeŠtine, samo ostatak posade.
Subject: skills and perks?
Link on message: #6695272
azdsn, on 13 December 2013 - 03:53 PM, said: Pa ja racunam da samo ostatak posade dobija vise iskustva kao sto
pise. Na mojoj posadi nije bilo razlike nakon puno iskustva i
sklonio sam skill zato sto mi nije bas jasan i ako je tako kao sto
pise,nije ni radio tada kad sam ga isprobavao.
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TheKroo: cp iz jednog starog vodica Mentor: +10% iskustva
posadi
+0.1% svoj posadi-- osim zapovjednika-- Po nivou vjeŠtine. (odnosno, @100%, to je 10% bonusa svim članovima posade osim zap.) Bonus dijeluje samo na buduće bitke, ne obračunava se na proŠle bitke, odnosno bitke prije nego ste izučili vjeŠtinu. Kumulacija: Nema.
I.a., _Loner_ nudi detaljnu analizu ove vjeŠtine:
Pogledajmo iznos iskustva potreban članu posade za njegovu vjeŠtinu:
1. vjeŠtina = 10000, 2. vjeŠtina = 20000, 3. vjeŠtina = 40000
Stopa dobivanja nove vjeŠtine je eksponencijalna, odnosno 2n, ili jednostavno možete ovo shvatiti da vjeŠtina nakon prve, dobija deprecijaciju 2n!
Ako razvijate Mentor kao prvu vjeŠtinu onda donosi (10% - 0%) / 2 = 5% po članu posade.
Nakon toga je samo ravna stopa u iznosu 10% dodatnog iskustva po članu posade nakon Što dosegnut 100% mentor s normalnim iznosom bitki.
Bez mentora:
Pretpostavimo da neki tenk ima prosjek iskustva 750 po bitci. Bitke potrebne da se dobije prva vjeŠtina za četveročlanu posadu su: 10000 / (750/4) = 53.33 ili 54 bitke
Druga vjeŠtina: 20000 / (750/4) = 106.67 ili 107 bitki
Treća vjeŠtina: 40000 / (750/4) = 213.33 ili 214 bitki
Četvrta vjeŠtina: 80000 / (750/4) = 426.67 ili 427 bitki
S mentorom:
Pretpostavimo da neki tenk ima prosjek iskustva 750 po bitci. Bitke potrebne da se dobije prva vjeŠtina za četveročlanu posadu su:
10000 [(750 / 4) * 105.%] = 50.79 ili 51 bitka
Druga vjeŠtina: 20000 / [(750 / 4) * 110%] = 96.97 ili 97 bitki
Treća vjeŠtina: 40000 / [(750 / 4) * 110%] = 193.94 ili 194 bitke.
Četvrta vjeŠtina: 80000 / [(750 / 4) * 110%] = 387.87 ili 388 bitki.
Kada bi osoba imala tri vjeŠtine, uŠtedjela bi (54 + 107 + 214) - (51 + 97 + 194) = 33 bitke
Zaključak: Mentor smanjuje broj bitki kako idete gore. Je li uistinu koristan? Ovisi koliko bitki namjeravate uložiti u vaŠ tenk. Međutim, bitki uŠtede mijenjate za vjeŠtinu koja vam ne koristi u bitci.
----
ProŠirena matematika:
Bez mentora:
Peta vjeŠtina: 160000 / (750/4) = 854 bitke
Šesta vjeŠtina: 320000 / (750/4) = 1707 bitki
Sedma vjeŠtina: 640000 / (750/4) = 3414 bitki
Osma vjeŠtina: 1200000 / (750/4) = 6400 bitki
S mentorom:
Peta vjeŠtina: 160000 / [(750 / 4) * 110%] = 776 bitki (uŠteda 78 bitki)
Šesta vjeŠtina: 320000 / [(750 / 4) * 110%] = 1552 bitki (uŠteda 155 bitki )
Sedma vjeŠtina: 640000 / [(750 / 4) * 110%] = 3104 bitke (uŠteda 310 bitki )
Osma vjeŠtina: 1200000 / [(750 / 4) * 110%] = 5819 bitki(uŠteda 581 bitki)
U primjeru s prosjekom od 750 iskustva pi bitci:
Tijekom vremena prikupljanja osme sekundarne vjeŠtina uŠtedjeti ćete si 1,196 bitki s mentorom za Što bi vam trebalo 11, 981 bitka u tenku (bez privatnog života)
Tijekom vremena prikupljanja sedme sekundarne vjeŠtina uŠtedjeti ćete si 615 bitki s mentorom za Što bi vam trebalo 6,162 bitke u tenku (izvodivo)
Tijekom vremena prikupljanja Šeste sekundarne vjeŠtine uŠtedjeti ćete si 305 bitki s mentorom za Što bi vam trebalo 3,058 bitki u tenku
Zaključak: Ako planirate odigrati 10,000+ igara svakako koristite mentor i uŠtedite si 1,000 bitki. Ako planirate odigrati 5,000 igri ili manje u tenku (kao većina normalnih ljudi) onda nije vrijedno.[/sup][/SPOILER]
Savjet Stavite ga prvog za maksimalnu učinkovitost; napomena: poboljŠanje treninga je % of zapovjednikovog treninga u ovoj vjeŠtini, odnosno., na 10%, posada dobija +1% bonus, na 20%, 2%, itd.; napomena2: ova vjeŠtina može biti uklonjena sa zapovjednika u bilo koje vrijeme, kako bi se zamijenila drugom vjeŠtinom/talentom; odnosno, jednom kada smatrate treniranje posade gotovim; ili, kada je trening posade gotov, ova vjeŠtina nema daljnje funkcionalnosti; napomena3: Zapovjednik ne dobija bonus od ove vjeŠtine, samo ostatak posade.
+0.1% svoj posadi-- osim zapovjednika-- Po nivou vjeŠtine. (odnosno, @100%, to je 10% bonusa svim članovima posade osim zap.) Bonus dijeluje samo na buduće bitke, ne obračunava se na proŠle bitke, odnosno bitke prije nego ste izučili vjeŠtinu. Kumulacija: Nema.
I.a., _Loner_ nudi detaljnu analizu ove vjeŠtine:
Pogledajmo iznos iskustva potreban članu posade za njegovu vjeŠtinu:
1. vjeŠtina = 10000, 2. vjeŠtina = 20000, 3. vjeŠtina = 40000
Stopa dobivanja nove vjeŠtine je eksponencijalna, odnosno 2n, ili jednostavno možete ovo shvatiti da vjeŠtina nakon prve, dobija deprecijaciju 2n!
Ako razvijate Mentor kao prvu vjeŠtinu onda donosi (10% - 0%) / 2 = 5% po članu posade.
Nakon toga je samo ravna stopa u iznosu 10% dodatnog iskustva po članu posade nakon Što dosegnut 100% mentor s normalnim iznosom bitki.
Bez mentora:
Pretpostavimo da neki tenk ima prosjek iskustva 750 po bitci. Bitke potrebne da se dobije prva vjeŠtina za četveročlanu posadu su: 10000 / (750/4) = 53.33 ili 54 bitke
Druga vjeŠtina: 20000 / (750/4) = 106.67 ili 107 bitki
Treća vjeŠtina: 40000 / (750/4) = 213.33 ili 214 bitki
Četvrta vjeŠtina: 80000 / (750/4) = 426.67 ili 427 bitki
S mentorom:
Pretpostavimo da neki tenk ima prosjek iskustva 750 po bitci. Bitke potrebne da se dobije prva vjeŠtina za četveročlanu posadu su:
10000 [(750 / 4) * 105.%] = 50.79 ili 51 bitka
Druga vjeŠtina: 20000 / [(750 / 4) * 110%] = 96.97 ili 97 bitki
Treća vjeŠtina: 40000 / [(750 / 4) * 110%] = 193.94 ili 194 bitke.
Četvrta vjeŠtina: 80000 / [(750 / 4) * 110%] = 387.87 ili 388 bitki.
Kada bi osoba imala tri vjeŠtine, uŠtedjela bi (54 + 107 + 214) - (51 + 97 + 194) = 33 bitke
Zaključak: Mentor smanjuje broj bitki kako idete gore. Je li uistinu koristan? Ovisi koliko bitki namjeravate uložiti u vaŠ tenk. Međutim, bitki uŠtede mijenjate za vjeŠtinu koja vam ne koristi u bitci.
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ProŠirena matematika:
Bez mentora:
Peta vjeŠtina: 160000 / (750/4) = 854 bitke
Šesta vjeŠtina: 320000 / (750/4) = 1707 bitki
Sedma vjeŠtina: 640000 / (750/4) = 3414 bitki
Osma vjeŠtina: 1200000 / (750/4) = 6400 bitki
S mentorom:
Peta vjeŠtina: 160000 / [(750 / 4) * 110%] = 776 bitki (uŠteda 78 bitki)
Šesta vjeŠtina: 320000 / [(750 / 4) * 110%] = 1552 bitki (uŠteda 155 bitki )
Sedma vjeŠtina: 640000 / [(750 / 4) * 110%] = 3104 bitke (uŠteda 310 bitki )
Osma vjeŠtina: 1200000 / [(750 / 4) * 110%] = 5819 bitki(uŠteda 581 bitki)
U primjeru s prosjekom od 750 iskustva pi bitci:
Tijekom vremena prikupljanja osme sekundarne vjeŠtina uŠtedjeti ćete si 1,196 bitki s mentorom za Što bi vam trebalo 11, 981 bitka u tenku (bez privatnog života)
Tijekom vremena prikupljanja sedme sekundarne vjeŠtina uŠtedjeti ćete si 615 bitki s mentorom za Što bi vam trebalo 6,162 bitke u tenku (izvodivo)
Tijekom vremena prikupljanja Šeste sekundarne vjeŠtine uŠtedjeti ćete si 305 bitki s mentorom za Što bi vam trebalo 3,058 bitki u tenku
Zaključak: Ako planirate odigrati 10,000+ igara svakako koristite mentor i uŠtedite si 1,000 bitki. Ako planirate odigrati 5,000 igri ili manje u tenku (kao većina normalnih ljudi) onda nije vrijedno.[/sup][/SPOILER]
Savjet Stavite ga prvog za maksimalnu učinkovitost; napomena: poboljŠanje treninga je % of zapovjednikovog treninga u ovoj vjeŠtini, odnosno., na 10%, posada dobija +1% bonus, na 20%, 2%, itd.; napomena2: ova vjeŠtina može biti uklonjena sa zapovjednika u bilo koje vrijeme, kako bi se zamijenila drugom vjeŠtinom/talentom; odnosno, jednom kada smatrate treniranje posade gotovim; ili, kada je trening posade gotov, ova vjeŠtina nema daljnje funkcionalnosti; napomena3: Zapovjednik ne dobija bonus od ove vjeŠtine, samo ostatak posade.
Subject: Warum wurden manche ehemals gepinnte Themen "entpinnt"?
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PanzerGert: Was die Threads betrifft so wurden diese aus unterschiedlichen
Gründen entpinnt. Da es hier aber ebenfalls wiederum in eine
Diskussion der Moderation geht, wird auch hier wiederum zu gemacht.
Die Forenregeln haben sich auch seit dem letzten Thread dazu nicht
geändert. PanzerGert Community Coordinator
Subject: A review of WoT's rival game...
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bushwacker001, on 13 December 2013 - 04:30 PM, said: Hunter, I really hope that was sarcasm and not that you
think I really did it ![:tongue: :tongue:](http://cdn-frm-eu.wargaming.net/wot/eu/4.1/style_emoticons/wot/Smile-tongue.gif)
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Hunter1911: I know nothing. Singed Jon Snow.
Subject: A review of WoT's rival game...
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bushwacker001, on 13 December 2013 - 04:30 PM, said: Hunter, I really hope that was sarcasm and not that you
think I really did it ![:tongue: :tongue:](http://cdn-frm-eu.wargaming.net/wot/eu/4.1/style_emoticons/wot/Smile-tongue.gif)
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TheKroo: I know nothing. Singed Jon Snow.
Subject: A review of WoT's rival game...
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bushwacker001, on 13 December 2013 - 04:30 PM, said: Hunter, I really hope that was sarcasm and not that you
think I really did it ![:tongue: :tongue:](http://cdn-frm-eu.wargaming.net/wot/eu/4.1/style_emoticons/wot/Smile-tongue.gif)
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TheyCallMeHans: I know nothing. SingedJon Snow.
Subject: Awesome Tank Pictures Thread
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Hunter1911:
One of the Bren gun carriers used by Australian light horse
troops in Northern Africa, on January 7, 1941.
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Subject: Awesome Tank Pictures Thread
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TheKroo:
One of the Bren gun carriers used by Australian light horse
troops in Northern Africa, on January 7, 1941.
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Subject: Testiram tenkove za vas - Diskusija
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Hunter1911: Izvrsna ideja i svaka pohvala na trudu.
Subject: Testiram tenkove za vas - Diskusija
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TheKroo: Izvrsna ideja i svaka pohvala na trudu.
Subject: Video: RNG Episode 13
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bajs13, on 13 December 2013 - 03:35 PM, said: 13 RNG episode on 13th Friday. Coincidence? I don't think so.
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Hunter1911:
0:51 wins lol
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Subject: Video: RNG Episode 13
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bajs13, on 13 December 2013 - 03:35 PM, said: 13 RNG episode on 13th Friday. Coincidence? I don't think so.
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TheKroo:
0:51 wins lol
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Subject: A review of WoT's rival game...
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bushwacker001, on 13 December 2013 - 03:15 PM, said: I rage quitted and uninstalled due to hoof glitter
noobs ![:angry: :angry:](http://cdn-frm-eu.wargaming.net/wot/eu/4.1/style_emoticons/wot/Smile-angry.gif)
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Hunter1911: How do you uninstall a browser based game? Format C?
Subject: A review of WoT's rival game...
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bushwacker001, on 13 December 2013 - 03:15 PM, said: I rage quitted and uninstalled due to hoof glitter
noobs ![:angry: :angry:](http://cdn-frm-eu.wargaming.net/wot/eu/4.1/style_emoticons/wot/Smile-angry.gif)
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TheKroo: How do you uninstall a browser based game? Format C?
Subject: A review of WoT's rival game...
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bushwacker001, on 13 December 2013 - 03:15 PM, said: I rage quitted and uninstalled due to hoof glitter
noobs ![:angry: :angry:](http://cdn-frm-eu.wargaming.net/wot/eu/4.1/style_emoticons/wot/Smile-angry.gif)
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TheyCallMeHans: How do you uninstall a browser based game?Format C?
Subject: 12 Days of Christmas - Verse 1!
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Dakiras:
Seasonal Greetings!
As you may or may not know, Christmas carols are often sung in certain places around the world to celebrate this festive season. We have a unique competition to celebrate this fine event, in which we take the 12 days of Christmas song and make it World of Tanks themed. All 12 verses must be completed in time for Christmas at the rate of one line per day, with a prize for each day. All we're asking is for you to help us re-write this popular carol, one line at a time. The line for today is highlighted in orange here as an example: On the first day of Christmas My true love gave to me A partridge in a pear tree Adapt this orange line to a world of tanks themed sentence that rhymes with the verse (see the example below). At the end of the competition all 12 verses will be published on the forum. Lets see how adaptive and creative our community can be!
The Reward is: Bonus Code: 1 Free Garage Slot
300 gold
1 Day Premium
Premium Light Tank M3 Stuart The Rules: All answers must be posted within this topic. Answers sent any other way will not be counted. Edited posts will not count and only one post per player. Forum rules apply! Must not contain abusive messages or profanity, or you will be instantly dismissed from the competition. Example: On the first day of Christmas My true love gave to me A shiny tank in my tech tree Seasonal Regards Your Community Team
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As you may or may not know, Christmas carols are often sung in certain places around the world to celebrate this festive season. We have a unique competition to celebrate this fine event, in which we take the 12 days of Christmas song and make it World of Tanks themed. All 12 verses must be completed in time for Christmas at the rate of one line per day, with a prize for each day. All we're asking is for you to help us re-write this popular carol, one line at a time. The line for today is highlighted in orange here as an example: On the first day of Christmas My true love gave to me A partridge in a pear tree Adapt this orange line to a world of tanks themed sentence that rhymes with the verse (see the example below). At the end of the competition all 12 verses will be published on the forum. Lets see how adaptive and creative our community can be!
The Reward is: Bonus Code: 1 Free Garage Slot
300 gold
1 Day Premium
Premium Light Tank M3 Stuart The Rules: All answers must be posted within this topic. Answers sent any other way will not be counted. Edited posts will not count and only one post per player. Forum rules apply! Must not contain abusive messages or profanity, or you will be instantly dismissed from the competition. Example: On the first day of Christmas My true love gave to me A shiny tank in my tech tree Seasonal Regards Your Community Team
Subject: Fail Moments - Read, Laugh, Learn to avoid them
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Hunter1911: Saddest battle I had was in the Pz.Kpfw. 38H 735 (f). I was on 10
kills and was facing the remaining 2 enemy tanks, alone. My shells
ran out and the enemies got me. A 10 kills lost battle.
Subject: Fail Moments - Read, Laugh, Learn to avoid them
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TheKroo: Saddest battle I had was in the Pz.Kpfw. 38H 735
(f). I was on 10 kills and was facing the remaining 2 enemy
tanks, alone. My shells ran out and the enemies got me. A 10 kills
lost battle.
Subject: Heavy steel vikend misija
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Hunter1911: Vidis mogao bih ja malo provozati svoju Stotku.
Subject: Heavy steel vikend misija
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TheKroo: Vidis mogao bih ja malo provozati svoju Stotku.
Subject: skills and perks?
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Checola, on 13 December 2013 - 03:00 PM, said:
malo je brže ali zanemarivo, mislim da je totalno promašen skill, osim ako baš nema ničeg boljeg....
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malo je brže ali zanemarivo, mislim da je totalno promašen skill, osim ako baš nema ničeg boljeg....
Hunter1911: 10% vise iskustva nije lose. No kad se uzme u obzir da
mentor zauzima cijeli jedan skill slot, efekt je donekle zanemariv.
Subject: skills and perks?
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Checola, on 13 December 2013 - 03:00 PM, said:
malo je brže ali zanemarivo, mislim da je totalno promašen skill, osim ako baš nema ničeg boljeg....
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malo je brže ali zanemarivo, mislim da je totalno promašen skill, osim ako baš nema ničeg boljeg....
TheKroo: 10% vise iskustva nije lose. No kad se uzme u obzir da
mentor zauzima cijeli jedan skill slot, efekt je donekle zanemariv.
Subject: Themen verschwunden?
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PanzerGert: Da auch hier die Moderation diskutiert wird, ebenfalls
vorübergehend geschlossen. Panzergert
Community Coordinator
Community Coordinator
Subject: Winter Surprise Calendar
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wolfmenseyes, on 13 December 2013 - 10:53 AM, said: Crap t127 turd tank easy to kill offer me something in the game
shop stop being greedy goblins.
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LiannaSilverwind: After checking your hangar, I thought you are premium tanks
collector! So you are not, got it.
Subject: Disskussionen über Bots - Sammelthread
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PanzerGert: Aufgrund Diskussionen bezüglich Moderation wird auch dieser Thread
vorübergehend geschlossen. PanzerGert Community Coordinator
Subject: Dieses Forum entwickelt sich zum absoluten Witz!
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PengTot, on 13 December 2013 - 01:08 PM, said: Kommt mir jetzt auch nicht mit den Forenregeln daher, die
kennen wir mittlerweile selbst. Checkt Ihr nicht daß das ein Thema
ist das die Community mittlerweile auf die Palme bringt oder habt
Ihr Anweisungen so zu verfahren?
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PanzerGert: Doch, ich komme mit den Forenregeln, und nein, ich handele und
denke noch selbst.
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