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parim1331
Rozpoczyna się wyzwanie LISa!
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31.08.2020 15:30:35
 
Subject: Rozpoczyna się wyzwanie LISa!
Link on message: #18060507

View PostPolish_Badger, on 28 August 2020 - 03:29 PM, said: Pięknie się prezentuje LiSek :)   https://zapodaj.net/...2c3a15.jpg.html   Doszedłem do 40% i kupiłem z takim rabatem - nie będę tracił czasu na męczenie się z expem :) poza tym misje dzienne na lisa uciekają   Czas na LiSowe misje dzienne :)

parim1331:  I jak Ci się gra LIS'em? :bush: 

View PostRh2kk, on 28 August 2020 - 04:46 PM, said:   Jak zrobiłem ze 3 bitwy III etapu to pojawiła się i w sklepie zniżka 20%. Może trzeba zaczać następny level żeby zaliczyło...?

parim1331:  Nie sprawdzałem tego pod tym kątem, wydaje mi się, że to jest kwestia opóźnienia.


parim1331
Supertest - Object 274a, GSOR 1008, Carro da Combattimento 45t.
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31.08.2020 15:03:32
 
Subject: Supertest - Object 274a, GSOR 1008, Carro da Combattimento 45t.
Link on message: #18060439

View Postares354, on 28 August 2020 - 06:16 PM, said: No tak, polska premka była słaba w stosunku do jej odpowiednika za darmo, który jest jeszcze gorszy, więc poleciał buff. Problem leżu w tym że tak samo postąpiliście z Liberte, Progetto, Defender.    Porównaj sobie proszę statystyki ruskiego cuda i polskiej premki i wtedy pisz. Bo Ja widzę przepaść. 

parim1331:  W aktualnym stanie rzeczy zgadzam się w pełni z tym, że Rosjanin wypada w statach lepiej. Czy w takim stanie trafi na główne serwery i jak rzeczywiście będzie się sprawdzał - o tym się dopiero przekonamy. 

View PostRevanche25, on 30 August 2020 - 07:59 AM, said: parim1331 to kiedy buff do pancerza lub zmiana masy na mniejszą w CS-53?    

parim1331:  O zmianach CS-53 póki co nic mi nie wiadomo, dlatego też wydaje mi się, że jak już, to zobaczymy nerfa 274a. 

View PostSirBushman, on 30 August 2020 - 02:43 PM, said:

Nowości można podsumować bardzo krótko:
Ruski med tier VIII i 3/4, angielski MT zaklasyfikowany jako TD w odróżnieniu od francuskiego TD (AMX CDC), który w grze robi za najgorszego meda VIII tieru premium oraz włoski MT tieru X i 1/2, będący wbrew niegdysiejszym zapowiedziom konstrukcją z lat 70?

Czyli? Trzy OP tanki aby gracze mieli powód do wydania pieniędzy a balans poszedł dokonać jeszcze głębszego seppuku.

Czemu?
Ruski med z tego co wygląda ma najlepszy pancerz ze wszystkich medów swojego tieru, działo z jedną z najwyższych wartości penetracji (lepsze są tylko Polak o 1mm i Obj 416, który od zawsze był POZA konkurencją), VR IX tieru, etc..
Angielski TDek. 12 stopni opuszczania lufy, mała wieża, mobilność, wartości kamo właściwe dla TDków i magazynek na 1280 bursta w 4,5 sec.

Włoski autoreloader nie wymaga komentarza.   PS
Ktoś tęsknił? ;)

parim1331:  O efektywności tych pojazdów jeszcze się przekonamy, z doświadczenia wiem, że najlepiej jest poczekać na video-recenzje. Zgadzam się, że w aktualnym stanie 274 jest w stanie dominować. PS Oczywiście, że tęskniłem, witamy z powrotem. :teethhappy:


Delhroh
Actualizaciones del Programa de reclutamiento 2.0: ¡Reclutad amigos y ganad r...
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31.08.2020 14:13:20
 
Subject: Actualizaciones del Programa de reclutamiento 2.0: ¡Reclutad amigos y ganad r...
Link on message: #18060351

View Postpacholo, on 29 August 2020 - 02:04 PM, said: Pues después de 3 días, ni me suma los puntos que hizo el recluta ni me suma mas puntos por en teoria haber acabado ya los puntos totales que pide la ultima misión, Mi recluta ahora mismo acaba de hacer una misión quedando 3º por exp con 2 medallas épicas y nada de nada.

Delhroh: ¿Me puedes pasar por aquí el nick de tu reclutado? Gracias por reportarlo.


Delhroh
gamescom 2020: Ofertas y eventos especiales
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31.08.2020 14:12:12
 
Subject: gamescom 2020: Ofertas y eventos especiales
Link on message: #18060350

View PostPUTLER_KAPUT, on 29 August 2020 - 03:31 PM, said: Hola Delhroh, Te han comentado varias veces los jugadores lo mismo y yo lo repito: Tras un cambio radical en el equipamiento que obliga en la práctica a comprar el equipamiento para cada carro, lo suyo es una oferta por lo menos al 50% para el equipamiento. Los "coleccionistas" que tenemos muchos carros usábamos parte de equipamiento móvil para ir pasando de un carro a otros. No es nada práctico tener que desmontar, pagar y recargar de nuevo equipamiento de un carro a otro, sobre todo para realizar una o dos partidas en cada uno. Al final se juega en menos carros, incluidos los premiun, y al final es desmotivacion para realizar más partidas. Ahora con el X5 que es un excelente incentivo para sacar los carros con polvos en el garaje a pasear resulta que no pueden salir porque han quitado el equipamiento (salir sin equipamiento no es un opción para ajustadores medios/bajos).  Es imposible equipar a todos los carros con equipamiento, imposible, y lo de los bonos para cambiar el equipamiento ni siquiera es "automático", hay que buscar un carro, quitarle el equipamiento que necesites y que valga para el otro carro (otro rollo lo de varios niveles para el mismo equipamiento). No está bien pensado y va en contra de incentivar a los jugadores. Saludos  

Delhroh: Cierto, yo también tengo el mismo problema. Tengo decenas de vehículos aún sin equipar por lo mismo... estoy esperando que haya descuentos en créditos en equipamiento... a ver si ocurre... ¡espero que más pronto que tarde!


Delhroh
Entregas de suministros de Twitch para la gamescom 2020
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31.08.2020 14:09:52
 
Subject: Entregas de suministros de Twitch para la gamescom 2020
Link on message: #18060346

View PostMal_Fario, on 30 August 2020 - 08:20 AM, said: Pues algo falla. Seis horas de directo con Xcr teniendo cumplidas escrupulosamente los dos primeros pasos y rien de rien. 

Delhroh: En ese tipo de caso recomendamos desvincular y volver a vincular la cuenta.


Delhroh
Resumen mensual: ofertas y eventos especiales que no os podéis perder en sept...
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31.08.2020 14:07:31
 
Subject: Resumen mensual: ofertas y eventos especiales que no os podéis perder en sept...
Link on message: #18060341

View Postperebor, on 30 August 2020 - 04:04 PM, said: La temporada 2 del pase de batalla termina el 8 de septiembre. No hay tercera temporada?

Delhroh: Es posible que haya una nueva temporada en el futuro. 

View Postvictorilloso, on 31 August 2020 - 01:13 AM, said: Lo siento mucho, pero con todo lo que ha pasado y con lo que va a pasar - a este juego le doy 6 meses de vida reales!!!!!!  

Delhroh: Llevo casi 9 años leyendo esto casi todos los meses... :great:


Delhroh
¡Llega el reto del LIS!
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31.08.2020 14:05:47
 
Subject: ¡Llega el reto del LIS!
Link on message: #18060339

View PostSr_L0B0, on 30 August 2020 - 12:03 PM, said:   Recuerda a los concursos de preguntas y respuestas de la tv, verdad?
Las primeras son para pensar, "qué concurso más fácil"... y luego llega una pregunta de mecánica cuántica que te elimina. 

Delhroh: Alguna posibilidad tendría entonces... :bajan: Cambio de tercio, ¿por qué nivel andáis ya? ¿6ª etapa o más?


Delhroh
10.º aniversario
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31.08.2020 14:03:00
 
Subject: 10.º aniversario
Link on message: #18060336

View Postrocannrol, on 31 August 2020 - 11:20 AM, said: No se, yo los he convertido todos en plazas de garaje. Por cierto cuando se van a poder vender las plazas de garaje que no queramos?? Tema que llevamos pidiendo muchos jugadores desde hace tiempo?  Cuando WG atenderá está petición de los jugadores? Y los señores moderadores han trasmitido esta petición a la  Compañía?  

Delhroh: Muchas veces. No, no está previsto de momento :(


Sael_
Monthly Rundown: Unmissable Specials and Events this September
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31.08.2020 13:08:21
 
Subject: Monthly Rundown: Unmissable Specials and Events this September
Link on message: #18060209

View PostLt_Pfaffenbach, on 29 August 2020 - 02:43 PM, said:
be careful, mind the case of July: there is nowhere written they will be on discount, more likely you'll be able to win "some" through missions.   new trick by WG, watch it

Sael_:  We won't have a consumables discount, there's consumables as rewards for missions. In no way we said the opposite during the video, so I'm confused over where the confusion is coming from. :D 

View PostElefantas, on 29 August 2020 - 05:18 PM, said:
you get payed from wg to urge people to break forum rules ?:)

Sael_:  I don't think there's much of a need for that. No, the rules are there because we want for players to respect them and keep the environment comfortable for any and all players that land here in search of a constructive discussion. 

View PostSturmi_0545, on 30 August 2020 - 08:45 AM, said: The issue here is that WG forum staff are not here to process or pass on information like computers (though I wouldn't be able to resist to apply some punching sometimes), they are WG's meat shield to keep up the "customer service" and "open discussion/feedback" facade. They are the disposable pawns with WG kommissars in their necks, trying to silence the criticism through exhaustion, with empty,assuring responses.

Sael_:  I look so grey in your mirror. :(To be fair, I would love to have only reassuring answers to distribute. That would be a rare case. No, most of the time I have to share bitter truths and explain unpopular points of view on the game. This is a hard job that we take on fueled by sheer passion for the game, and we do this to help you understand the nature of the game and the content that surrounds it - offers, updates, events etc. You might disagree with what we say and not like some of it and that's ok, but we're here to address a public need, not as a façade. And here's the thing, it may not be a popular reason and I understand you are upset about this, but behind the fact that we're not going to offer a discount on equipment anytime soon there's only the fact that, exactly because we have introduced a new system, we need to gather data about it before we move onto altering the situation with a discount. 


Dwigt
Monthly Rundown: Unmissable Specials and Events this September
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31.08.2020 13:06:48
 
Subject: Monthly Rundown: Unmissable Specials and Events this September
Link on message: #18060203

View PostCorrupted_Pling, on 29 August 2020 - 10:16 AM, said: Sounds pretty boring tbh

Dwigt: How about some surprises? 

View PostBadz360, on 29 August 2020 - 10:27 AM, said: Equipment discount when?

Dwigt: Not now but I'll come and we'll make sure you know first! 

View PostGremlin182, on 29 August 2020 - 01:14 PM, said: Consumables discounted twice once on the 5th-8th and again on the 19th-22nd. Confirm or correct please so we can yell or cheer :)

Dwigt: These are not discounts but weekend special missions to earn some consumables from class and platoon missions. 

View PostLt_Pfaffenbach, on 29 August 2020 - 02:43 PM, said:
be careful, mind the case of July: there is nowhere written they will be on discount, more likely you'll be able to win "some" through missions.   new trick by WG, watch it

Dwigt: Not a trick but some people misread the special in the past. 

View PostSturmi_0545, on 30 August 2020 - 06:45 AM, said: pure truth, and I'm applying the exact same strategy regarding credits saving, feeling like I have to hoard ingame resources to survive WG's next mental meltdown and protect my tanks by not playing.   It's also mind boggling how WG could think that this would be a good way to keep the long term players invested in the game. Equipmemt 2.0 feels like a strategy to remove those who remember WG's unkept promises and WoT's better days, so there will be noone left to see its decline throughout the years.   I admire that you're still trying to explain the issues we have with the game to what seem to be WG employees' second/troll accounts (classic commie strategy to "prove" that 80% approve of their decision). Nothing more we can do than make our feedback heard. Just feels sad and unnecessary to have WG destroy a game I planned to be playing during my retirement (in 30 years).

Dwigt: About the saving credits, you're free to do it and no one is forcing you to spend it. It's a free to play to game and the tanks at your disposal. But the second part of your message is the one I'm interested in. No we don't have second/troll accounts. It goes against our forum rules and it's not worth it. believe me. Not sure about the commie part but we have facts not only general opinions (I'll expand on this in my second reply below) and please be respectful.  

View PostSturmi_0545, on 30 August 2020 - 08:45 AM, said: The issue here is that WG forum staff are not here to process or pass on information like computers (though I wouldn't be able to resist to apply some punching sometimes), they are WG's meat shield to keep up the "customer service" and "open discussion/feedback" facade. They are the disposable pawns with WG kommissars in their necks, trying to silence the criticism through exhaustion, with empty, assuring responses.

Dwigt: About the opinion, again, we're not bots, trolls or WG communist kommisars :) I would love you to show me where and how we silenced the criticism. We have facts and numbers that can sometimes go against the general opinion on the forum which is unfortunate and sadly we can not share them and I guess we discussed already. Yeah WG staff here are somehow the meat shield, we are the face of the company here so we expect to receive the first blow but we're also the ones that represent the community when you have something to share with our devs. Not everything we deliver will make it to the game but you don't know how happy the community team is happy when we know that the our (your) feedback made an impact on the decisions/changes... but thanks for the appreciating our efforts, we're not here to disagree but to help. 

View PostDaemonKlaes, on 30 August 2020 - 10:22 AM, said: Guess nothing fancy for September then.

Dwigt: I would wait for the end of the month, we still have on going events. 

View PostBudgeDragon, on 30 August 2020 - 06:14 PM, said: Ok not bad. Also , how much should every player pay to make your servers work w/o lags? I mean 100+ ping is pretty dumb... and no my internet is fine.

Dwigt: We had some issues a couple of weeks ago. Have you checked with your ISP or with our CS team? Please let's keep the discussion on track, if you wish to discuss other topics related to other features please do it in the right thread.


Sstyx
Valiant
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31.08.2020 12:47:39
 
Subject: Valiant
Link on message: #18060172

Sstyx: Britský prémiový střední tank V. úrovně. Více informací o tanku v Tankpédii. Odkaz na tanks.gg - statistiky a 3D model.


Actinid
Éléments de personnalisation de l'Acte V : Nouveaux horizons !
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31.08.2020 12:27:01
 
Subject: Éléments de personnalisation de l'Acte V : Nouveaux horizons !
Link on message: #18060129

View PostRomRomRomRom, on 28 August 2020 - 06:54 PM, said: Bonjour,   Y a-t-il une option pour désactiver les notifications des pochoirs dynamiques après une partie, svp ?

Actinid:
Non. =)


Actinid
Matchday : faites des prédictions, gagnez des récompenses
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31.08.2020 12:20:02
 
Subject: Matchday : faites des prédictions, gagnez des récompenses
Link on message: #18060112

View PostPairisades, on 27 August 2020 - 03:31 PM, said: @Actinid
Bonjour,   N'arrivant pas à obtenir d'autres réponses que des redites de la part du support technique, je me permets de te solliciter de manière à savoir qui pourrait consulter l'historique des missions d'un compte.   Mon pronostique ayant disparu du fait d'un problème technique, j'ai demandé au support technique qui pourrait consulter l'historique des missions, mais je n'ai obtenu pour seule réponse que mon historique des pronostiques étant vierge, je ne peux pas prétendre à ces récompenses.   Étant quelqu'un de particulièrement obstiné lorsque je suis dans mon bon droit, je compte aller jusqu'au bout pour obtenir ce à quoi j'ai droit. Au delà des faibles récompenses en jeu, il s'agit d'une question de principe.   Consulter l'historique de mes missions passées est à mon avis le seul moyen de prouver que je suis dans mon bon droit.   Merci par avance

Actinid:  Salut, Je me suis renseigné auprès des autres communautés et il n'y a pas eu de problème similaire. Malheureusement sans screenshot ou preuve de ta part je ne peux rien faire à ce sujet (idem pour le support). 


Sstyx
připojení
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31.08.2020 11:36:54
 
Subject: připojení
Link on message: #18060019

View Postdarkfrodo, on 30 August 2020 - 03:00 PM, said: Hej od pátku mi padá hra a pc to není kdo mi vrátí zapnuté dvojnásobky atd... 14:01 Added after 0 minute opravte to dělám reinstal a jestli to zas nepojede jděte k čertu

Sstyx: opravte to dělám reinstal a jestli to zas nepojede jděte k čertu Prvně, pokud máš modifikace je vždy odinstaluj, tam je většinou hlavní chyba. Pokud to nepomůže, udělej integritu hry. Pokud by problém i nadále trval, kontaktuj support s přiloženým WGCheckem.


Sstyx
Artiléria....
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31.08.2020 11:32:17
 
Subject: Artiléria....
Link on message: #18060014

Sstyx: K diskuzi můžete využít již existující vlákno. Toto vlákno zavírám.


Sstyx
CS-52 LIS
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31.08.2020 11:23:47
 
Subject: CS-52 LIS
Link on message: #18060002

Sstyx: Polský prémiový střední tank VIII. úrovně. Více informací o tanku v Tankpédii (bude doplněno ) . Odkaz na tanks.gg - statistiky a 3D model


Actinid
gamescom 2020 : ventes et offres spéciales
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31.08.2020 10:58:14
 
Subject: gamescom 2020 : ventes et offres spéciales
Link on message: #18059963

View PostLoicHal92, on 29 August 2020 - 03:35 PM, said: hello, j'ai une notification sur mon compte Twitch comme quoi j'ai gagné un T-Shirt WOT mais ma question est : comment on le récupère ce T-Shirt ?

Actinid:
 Je confirme que tu as été selectionné pour gagner un T-shirt. As tu une impression écran du message que tu as reçu ?


Actinid
L'Épreuve du LIS est lancée !
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31.08.2020 10:55:52
 
Subject: L'Épreuve du LIS est lancée !
Link on message: #18059958

View Postkiochy, on 28 August 2020 - 07:29 PM, said:   on ne peux remplir qu'une étape par jour. les premieres sont plus simple. c'est important a garder en tete pour considerer le tps sur les dernieres etapes.

Actinid:  Tu peux faire plusieurs étapes par jours. 

View Postdocdave31, on 29 August 2020 - 08:57 AM, said: Est ce que le lis vaut le coup ? est ce que c'ets pas comme le t25 piliot1 = un medium pourrave ?

Actinid:  Le C-52 Lis est très similaire au T-44-100. Je te conseilles le post de Synop_S pour avoir plus de détails dessus : ICI. Ou la vidéo de Pamboum : 


Delhroh
Entregas de suministros de Twitch para la gamescom 2020
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30.08.2020 10:15:21
 
Subject: Entregas de suministros de Twitch para la gamescom 2020
Link on message: #18058222

View Postisidorff, on 29 August 2020 - 06:18 PM, said: Hoy 5 horas de estar conectado para nada...ningún regalo...:-(... a ver si moderación sabe algo al respecto...mañana tampoco darán nada?

Delhroh: 1. Enlazar cuenta de WoT con Twitch2. Seguir los canales de turno (que no suscribirse)3. Dejar el stream abierto  cuando suceda y ya. 


Keyhand
Frag doch das Unicum [ersten Post lesen!]
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30.08.2020 02:00:44
 
Subject: Frag doch das Unicum [ersten Post lesen!]
Link on message: #18058036

View PostAstroblitz, on 29 August 2020 - 10:20 PM, said: Was ist der beste Equipment-Setup für die IS-2 Familie? (IS, IS-2 (chin), IS-2 Berlin, IS-2M. IS-2S)

Keyhand:  Pauschal würde ich behaupten Ansetzer, Stabi und dann kann man je nach Gusto zwischen Rotationsmechanismus, Lüftung, HP-Modul und Optik (geordnet in Reihenfolge der Sinnigkeit geordnet) wählen.


Keyhand
Tanker`s Day /Gamescom Informationen 13.9
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30.08.2020 01:24:25
 
Subject: Tanker`s Day /Gamescom Informationen 13.9
Link on message: #18057987

View PostIgor_der_Metzger, on 28 August 2020 - 07:51 PM, said: Concept is AFAIK der Ranked Reward. Eigentlich wuppe, wenn man den AE schon hat....

Keyhand:  Würde ich tatsächlich anders sehen, es gibt deutliche Unterschiede.Es sei denn der AE ist für dich wuppe, wenn man den M103 schon hat.


Dwigt
gamescom 2020: Rewards Up For Grabs!
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28.08.2020 19:34:06
 
Subject: gamescom 2020: Rewards Up For Grabs!
Link on message: #18055708

View PostiMagniFico, on 28 August 2020 - 05:06 PM, said: Did anyone get Twitch Drops from WG stream? I don't know anyone who got anything. I think it's a scam.

Dwigt: Got the Waitangi Day style here. Try re linking your WG and Twitch accounts and join our CCs stream during the weekend to get yours. Good luck!


Dwigt
The LIS Challenge Rolls Out!
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28.08.2020 18:56:13
 
Subject: The LIS Challenge Rolls Out!
Link on message: #18055657

View PostAlucid, on 28 August 2020 - 04:33 PM, said: Why does this tier 8 come with class 2 rammer and vents? It can only use class 1 equipment.

Dwigt: It depends on the tank tier and equipment type. Not only this tier 8.Check the equipment 2.0 article again https://worldoftanks.eu/en/news/general-news/1-10-equipment-2-0/ 


Dwigt
gamescom 2020: Rewards Up For Grabs!
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28.08.2020 18:42:10
 
Subject: gamescom 2020: Rewards Up For Grabs!
Link on message: #18055634

View PostShrewd_Ape_In_The_Mist, on 28 August 2020 - 03:28 PM, said: Dude, what are you talking about. I never did claim anything about official source and that was not the point to begin with. One random user on the forum was expecting an equipment discount during gamescom event since there was one last year. I suspecting that the discount may not be coming this time due to WG's greed told him to hold his horses. And I was right since there's no equipment discount. This is all there is to it. It was never treated as an official information from neither of the sides.

Dwigt: Ok my bad I misunderstood why you said in your first post.  

View Postdillys12, on 28 August 2020 - 03:54 PM, said: Hello!I see your  Live on Twitch.tv, and I receive some message like....I win 2 drops, the Gamescom 2018 Style, and one Try your luck soldier t-shirt! How I can reddem them ? Please help me, thank you very much for  this drops!  ^_^ 14:55 Added after 1 minute Hello!I see your  Live on Twitch.tv, and I receive some message like....I win 2 drops, the Gamescom 2018 Style, and one Try your luck soldier t-shirt! How I can reddem them ? Please help me, thank you very much for  this drops!  ^_^

Dwigt: Hello!I see your  Live on Twitch.tv, and I receive some message like....I win 2 drops, the Gamescom 2018 Style, and one Try your luck soldier t-shirt! How I can reddem them ? Please help me, thank you very much for  this drops!  ^_^ "Try your luck soldier"  was the notification for the Tshirt. The Tshirt is not a guaranteed drop since it's a physical goody.The other 2 drops should be credited on your account automatically. We changed the notification message and it should be more obvious now.


Sstyx
Supertest: Object 274a, GSOR 1008, Carro da Combattimento 45t
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28.08.2020 18:41:08
 
Subject: Supertest: Object 274a, GSOR 1008, Carro da Combattimento 45t
Link on message: #18055631

View PostAgama82, on 28 August 2020 - 03:21 PM, said:  Děkujeme za info a neber si to osobně Sstyx, ale vážně WG doufá že chrlením nových prémiáků a tanků tuhle hru zachrání, když od roku 2011 kdy jsem začal hrát nedokázali udělat pořádně ani MM, spot systém atp. ??  Promiň, ale zjišťuju, že tu hru nekazí vozidla nebo hráči, ale WG sám. 

Sstyx: Nový kontent do hry je potřeba, každá online hra se musí vyvíjet v tomto směru. Bez nového kontentu není práce, není výdělek, který u práci na hře zaplatí, který dá důvod k tomu, aby servery běželi dále....


parim1331
Rozpoczyna się wyzwanie LISa!
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28.08.2020 16:55:25
 
Subject: Rozpoczyna się wyzwanie LISa!
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View PostBig_Uncle_Sam, on 28 August 2020 - 05:25 AM, said: [...]   Parim, a nie wiesz czegoś o jakichś planach na łatwiejsze maratony na premki niższego tieru, które mógłby sobie wbić każdy i to z przyjemnością? To idealne rozwiązanie, bo gracz ma satysfakcję, że coś zdobył, a przy okazji też generuje znaczny ruch na serwerze (więcej czerwonych graczy podejmie wyzwanie, by zdobyć czołg, a potem będą go objeżdżać - dzięki temu ci lepsi gracze będą mieli do kogo strzelać). Prawdę mówiąc, do gry zachęca mnie już coraz mniejsza liczba rzeczy. Rezerw mam dużo, miejsc w garażu wystarczy, bo nie planuję wspinać się na wyższe tiery i psuć zabawy lepszym, dni konta premium nie mam kiedy wykorzystać, wiec mnie tylko wkurzają, naklejki i tego typu bzdety mnie nie interesują, więc zostają tylko style / kamuflaże (o ile nie są pstrokate, preferuję te realistycznie wyglądające), złoto (od dawna nie widziałem misji na golda dla osób nie grających w klanach itp), obligacje (liczę, że uzbieram na czołg, ale ostatnio to też zostało utrudnione) no i właśnie czołgi premium (preferuję tiery II - V, gdzie jestem w stanie coś ugrać).   [...]

parim1331:  Szczerze mówiąc to nie wydaje mi się, żebyśmy zobaczyli czołg premium VIII poziomu w łatwy Wyzwaniu, jak już to jakaś VI. Żeby nie było, również uważam, że dla wszystkich byłoby fajnie jakby Wyzwania było proste i przyjemne, aczkolwiek trzeba na to spojrzeć z innej perspektywy. mianowicie, czołgi VIII poziomu, szczególnie medy są dość wartościowe. 

View PostRh2kk, on 28 August 2020 - 11:33 AM, said: Jak na arciarza to prawidłowo!!!  Parim, jakis błąd jest z % zniżki. W grze mam 20% a w sklepie proponuje mi 10%, jakaś kara? Nie grałem artą jakby co... :)

parim1331:  Czy błąd dalej jest widoczny? Jeżeli tak to podrzuć mi screenshoty z gry i ze sklepu na PW.


parim1331
Supertest - Object 274a, GSOR 1008, Carro da Combattimento 45t.
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28.08.2020 16:42:36
 
Subject: Supertest - Object 274a, GSOR 1008, Carro da Combattimento 45t.
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View Postares354, on 28 August 2020 - 01:26 PM, said: Zaraz Ci tu Parim napisze standardową regułkę którą go nauczono. To jest ST, zmiany nie są ostateczne, bla bla bla. 

Polska linia MT jest słaba i taka zostanie. Tu masz dobre pojazdy. Balans, WG nie zna tego słowa. 

parim1331:  Czy aby właśnie dokładnie tak nie było z nową Polską premką? Dopiero przed samym wejściem na główne serwery został zbuffowany, gdzie na samym początku dużo ludzi w ten czołg mocno wątpiło ze względu na jego statystyki.


Dwigt
gamescom 2020: Rewards Up For Grabs!
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28.08.2020 16:24:55
 
Subject: gamescom 2020: Rewards Up For Grabs!
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View PostFozzy50, on 28 August 2020 - 02:10 PM, said:

Dwigt:
:teethhappy: Nice one but I'm afraid that's it


Dwigt
gamescom 2020: Rewards Up For Grabs!
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28.08.2020 15:20:47
 
Subject: gamescom 2020: Rewards Up For Grabs!
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View PostgunslingerXXX, on 27 August 2020 - 12:12 PM, said: The game, goodies and discounts are fine, compared to the old days even very good (equipment would have been nice though).  My main dissapointment lies in the overhyping of the marketing department. I personally would appreciate a bit more modesty as some are getting close to false advertisements. Anyway, as pointed out to me by other players as well, I should just take the info with a grain of salt (is this a saying in English?) enjoy the game and take the stuff that's offered.    Where can I buy the socks?

Dwigt: Sure equipment discount would have been better. I don't think I would mind buying myself some equipment to my new tanks but it will come sooner or later.I don't see where we hinted or confirmed that there will be discounts on equipment on the 28th of August. I see ShrewApe saying that someone posted the info on the forums. We didn't and unfortunately we can not confirm nor deny rumors but your best source would be WG staff and our official news portal. You can see the example in the comment below. https://toesocks.co.uk/ :teethhappy: 

View PostLt_Pfaffenbach, on 27 August 2020 - 01:37 PM, said: 1) well, i was right with my previous comments, we hoped like always, got foked by WG like never before   2) guys pls notice what Dwigt wrote as P. S. - we'll see equipment discounts on Xmass, the earliest i mean - not that this is for sure

Dwigt: I'm talking about the socks! :teethhappy: I'm sure Gunslinger would love those socks in the coming month. (not sure about the color though) 

View PostDenton_0451, on 27 August 2020 - 03:55 PM, said:   Preorder/release discounts for example on Steam are saying the opposite thing.

Dwigt: First this rarely happens and definitely not the case of big releases. For sales reasons this would makes sense but that wasn't the point of equipment 2.0.We'll have discounts on equipment when the time is right! 

View PostShrewd_Ape_In_The_Mist, on 27 August 2020 - 04:21 PM, said: It was not an announcement. A forum user gave an advice to someone to wait for 28 August if that person wanted an equipment discount since then there'd be a gamescom event during which there has been an equipment discounts in the past I suppose.

Dwigt: Well I guess you got your answer. A forum user is not an official source. I've some confusion rumors around the discounts in the monthly rundown article but there wasn't any official confirmation about it. 

View PostRedJester, on 28 August 2020 - 09:01 AM, said: Be nice also if the collectors' tanks were on sale. 

Dwigt: Should come in the future! :)


Delhroh
Gamescom 2020: ¡Recompensas en juego!
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28.08.2020 14:53:22
 
Subject: Gamescom 2020: ¡Recompensas en juego!
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View Postmegatronn_invader, on 28 August 2020 - 12:48 PM, said: Era sarcasmo Delhroh, hubiese estado bien que ayudaran en este cambio en el sistema de equipamiento, eso lo esperábamos todos, es evidente, en un futuro quizás ya los tenga equipados. Muchas gracias por contestar 

Delhroh: Totalmente de acuerdo contigo. Un saludo.


Delhroh
Entregas de suministros de Twitch para la gamescom 2020
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28.08.2020 14:47:44
 
Subject: Entregas de suministros de Twitch para la gamescom 2020
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View PostxXxPATOxXxsSsRAMMERsSs, on 28 August 2020 - 09:40 AM, said: entonces solo es necesario tener enlazado la cuenta wot con twich acceder a la cuenta de twich prime e ir al enlace que has puesto, por ejemplo el primero. Lo único que hay que hacer es seguir la cuenta no? darle a seguir! pero no es necesario subscribirse. o si?? yo es que casi no se nada del twich, creo que se nota. Y nada, ver y esperar!  

Delhroh: 1. Enlazar cuenta de WoT con Twitch2. Seguir los canales de turno (que no suscribirse)3. Dejar el stream abierto  cuando suceda y ya. 


Delhroh
¡Llega el reto del LIS!
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28.08.2020 14:43:07
 
Subject: ¡Llega el reto del LIS!
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View Postllew84, on 28 August 2020 - 10:31 AM, said:   loooooool JAJAJJA joder, que timo   ósea el descuento es sobre el mega pack de mas de 60€, no hay opción de pillar solo el tanque sin mierdas adicionales con descuentos, mae mía.

Delhroh: Los desafíos siempre han sido así... no sé que tiene esto de sorpresa cuando se lleva haciendo años.


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Gamescom 2020: ¡Recompensas en juego!
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28.08.2020 14:41:39
 
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View Postmegatronn_invader, on 28 August 2020 - 11:04 AM, said: No se si se dice nerfeo al cliente, creo que se dice asi, lo que más falta hace no tiene descuento..., no seáis mal pensados, seguro que es un error

Delhroh: No, no es un error, los items de descuento quedan bien claros en las noticias.  Me repito: Que no haya descuentos en equipamientos ahora no significa que no los haya en el futuro.


Delhroh
gamescom 2020: Ofertas y eventos especiales
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28.08.2020 14:39:07
 
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Delhroh: Hola, Recordad que podéis compartir vuestras opiniones siempre que no falten al respeto o insinuen insultos para el staff. Los mensajes que rompían esta norma han sido ocultados y serán duramente sancionados acorde con las normas.


Actinid
Questions / réponses N°6 (fin Aout)
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28.08.2020 14:16:50
 
Subject: Questions / réponses N°6 (fin Aout)
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Actinid: Salut à tous, Voici la FAQ numéro 6  ! Merci à tous ceux ayant posé des questions. Si vous rechercher les anciennes FAQ vous pouvez les retrouver ici : Anciennes FAQ   Mi-février : ICI Début mars : ICI
Fin mars: ICI Fin avril : ICI Fin juin : ICI  Je vous invite à poser en commentaire ici vos prochaines questions. J'y répondrai de la même manière.Bonne journée à tous et que le RNG soit avec vous ! PS: je passerai sur le stream de Charlyroy cet après midi (à partir de 15h) pour donner plus d'informations ou pour répondre à plus de questions.Vous pouvez trouver le lien ici:  Questions / réponses   Sachant que toutes les anciennes maps seront mis au gout du jour sauf Komarin, est ce qu’il y en aura d'autres comme Berlin par exemple, est ce qu’il en sortira d'autres en même temps que ressorte les anciennes ? D’autres cartes sont prévues mais je ne peux ni partager la date ni le nom. Il s’agira peu-être de nouvelles cartes ou de cartes remises à jour.   Est-ce qu’on peut espérer avoir un jour les chars multi-tourelles ? (Une branche de super-lourds français pour introduire la mécanique au jeu ?) Les chars à multi tourelles avaient été testés lors du mode de jeu d’halloween Frank and Stein. Il n’est pas prévu de les implanter dans le jeu dans un avenir proche.   A quand un garage plus lisible, trois rangs, des premiums mieux démarqués des autres, un classement par char en cours de grind, etc... Pour le moment cela ne fait pas partie de nos priorités. Il y a des mods te permettant d’avoir ce genre de modifications, tu peux les trouver et les télécharger ici .   A quand un onglet mission lisible, il l'est de moins en moins avec cette foultitude de missions se chevauchant les unes sur les autres. Sans parler des missions extérieures type matchday, et là je découvre un nouveau truc avec des drops... imbuvable. Nous souhaitons améliorer l’interface de mission dans le futur afin de le rendre plus lisible. =)   iG, le turnover des maps, ce sont souvent les mêmes qui reviennent en boucle, tu es au Nord, puis au Sud, à l’Ouest… y’a pas un souci là ? Certaines cartes sont disponibles avec plusieurs modes de jeu (attaque défense / impromptue etc… Ce qui peut renforcer cet effet-là. De plus, certaines cartes sont limitées à certains tiers uniquement. Le fait de joueur régulièrement les véhicules d’un même rand peut encore plus renforcer ce sentiment. Sinon, je confirme qu’il n’y a pas de soucis sur la rotation de carte.     Et enfin y  at-il un suivi de l'évolution du MM ? Autrement dit est-il prévu de nouveaux correctifs MM dans les mois à venir ? Le mm est régulièrement suivi. Nous n’avons pas prévu de modifications majeures pour le moment.   Serait-il possible de penser à ceux qui ne peuvent participer au clan war, pour des raisons de dates ? Malheureusement l’objectif des clans wars est d’opposer les plus gros clans européens et de ce fait les horaires doivent être adaptés au plus grand nombre de joueurs. Ces horaires ne sont pas forcément idéales pour tout le monde mais nous ne prévoyons pas de créer une session de clans wars spécifiques à d’autres horaires.   Certains chars de récompenses sont cependant disponibles à l’achat contre des obligations.   C’est compris que 2020 n’apportera pas de nouvelle Nation en jeu.
Quid de 2021 ? La Suisse, l' Espagne, la Yougoslavie, le Moyen-Orient ? Il n’y a pas de nouvelles nations prévues pour 2020. De nouvelles branches sont par contre prévues (par exemple les chars moyens polonais qui viennent d’arriver. Je ne peux pas encore communiquer sur les plans de 2021.   Enfin quand allez-vous corriger les bugs qui font qu'on rate une cible à 5m ce qui n'existe pas .... C’est un canon pas un lance tomate artisanal.  Il n’y a pas de bugs de la sorte. Cela peut s’expliquer par le RNG, une potentielle latence serveur, ou tout simplement une mauvaise visée. Quand est ce que l'impact du pay to win sera diminué (rations améliorées 10% = 2 ventilation, les consommables premiums, directives, équipements améliorés... les golds).   Quand est-ce que vous allez supprimer les arties ou limiter à une ? Nous ne prévoyons pas de supprimer les artilleries. Il est en revanche prévu d’améliorer leur répartition en batailles. Pour plus d’informations là-dessus n’hésites pas à te référer aux anciennes Q/A.   Avec les batailles on peut gagner des pochoirs, camouflages, emblèmes, inscriptions etcToutefois tous ne sont pas à notre gout et ne seront pas utilisés, certains peuvent être revendus, pas d'autres et ils finissent par "encombrer", pourra-t-on un jour alors les supprimer, détruire ? Non pour le moment ce n’est pas envisagé.   Est-ce que un buff de meds chinois est envisagé ? Oui, ils sont d’ailleurs actuellement en supertest. Tu as plus d’informations ici : http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/750478-reequilibrage-chars-moyens-allemands-et-chinois/   Est-ce que l’on pourra avoir un événement d’échange de chars prémium. Le dernier évènement d’échange de chars premium à eu lieu le 18 aout au 25 aout. . Tu peux le trouver ici : https://worldoftanks.eu/fr/news/special-offers/trade-in-summer-2020/   Bonjour actinid. Est-il prévu un jour d'avoir une map style Bataille des Ardennes ou Bastogne? Pour le moment il n’est pas prévu d’avoir de nouvelles cartes sur ce thème. Cependant l’idée d’avoir des évènements sur ces batailles historiques n’est pas exclue.   Je voudrais savoir s'il existe un moyen de suivre l'évolution de la rentabilité de chaque tank sur une période que je pourrais choisir. Ce qu'il a rapporté en crédit (brut et net), expérience, son win rate. Pas à ma connaissance. Tu as des mods permettant de détailler les stats par sessions pour chaque char mais leur rentabilité n’est pas prise en compte.   Quand pourra-t-on enfin mettre plus de 1000 ignorés??? L’idée a déjà été suggérée mais je n’ai pas eu de nouvelles à ce sujet.   Bonjour avez-vous une date de sortie de la sandbox des equipage 2.0 Merci Non, aucune date n’a été partagée pour le moment.    


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28.08.2020 14:05:54
 
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Actinid: GG pour les 3 marques et merci pour le post =) !


Delhroh
Üç araç yakında Süperteste girecek
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28.08.2020 13:32:25
 
Subject: Üç araç yakında Süperteste girecek
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Delhroh: Üç araç yakında Süperteste girecek.Sovyet Seviye VIII orta tankı, Object 274a İngiliz Seviye VIII tank avcısı, GSOR 1008 İtalyan Seviye X orta tankı, Carro da Combattimento 45t. Bugün kısaca bu araçlar hakkında konuşacağız. Object 274aWoT_Template_New_Tank_Object_274_A_EN.jpg     R180_Object_274_A_1.jpg R180_Object_274_A_2.jpgR180_Object_274_A_3.jpgR180_Object_274_A_4.jpgR180_Object_274_A_5.jpgR180_Object_274_A_6.jpg     Bu tankın ana özellikleri, 230 mm'ye çıkan ön kule zırhı ile iyi koruması ve güçlü topu. Gövdedeki zırh plakaları makul ölçüde açılandırılmış ve 258 mm ön zırh plakasına sahip. Toplam CP: 1.200107 mm'lik topu, 227 mm zırh delme özelliğine sahip standart AP mermi ateşliyor. Özel mermisi ise ortalama 289 mm'lik zırh delme değerine sahip APCR. Atış başına 320 puan hasar ve 9 saniyelik yeniden yükleme süresinin birleşimi sayesinde bu tank tüm Seviye VIII orta tanklar arasındaki en iyi DPM'ye sahip. Ancak araçtan tam randıman alabilmek için düşmana yaklaşmanız gerekiyor çünkü 0,38'lik isabetliliği ve 2,7 saniyelik nişan alma süresi ile keskin nişancılık yapmak pek mümkün değil.Object 274a yakın ve orta mesafe çatışmalarda parıldarken, 58 km/s'lik azami hızı ile 18,2 bg/t'luk güç/ağırlık oranı, aracın yüksek DPM potansiyeline ulaşması adına düşmana kolayca yaklaşmanıza izin veriyor. Aynı zamanda mütevazı ön zırhı mümkün mertebe hayatta kalmanızı sağlıyor. GSOR 1008WoT_Template_New_Tank_GSOR_1008_EN.jpg    GSOR_1008_1.jpg GSOR_1008_2.jpgGSOR_1008_3.jpgGSOR_1008_4.jpgGSOR_1008_5.jpg     Bu tank avcısı klasik anti tank silahları ile orta tankların hareket kabiliyetini bir araya getiriyor. Ön zırhın kalınlığı belli noktalarda 200 mm'ye ulaşıyor ve araç 1.400 CP'ye sahip. Azami hızı 60 km/s, güç/ağırlık oranı 14,7 bg/tGSOR 1008'in ana özelliği 4 mermilik magazin ile atış başı 320 puan hasara sahip otomatik yükleyicili topu. Magazini yüklemek 32 saniye sürerken, otomatik yükleyici her 1,5 saniyede mermi alıyor. Araç durağan halde harika top stabilizasyonuna sahip: 0,3 isabetlilik ve 1,8 saniyelik nişan süresi sayesinde bu top, rakiplerini seri ve efektif biçimde alt edebiliyor. Standart AP mermisi ortalama 226 mm delebilirken, özel APCR mermisi için bu sayı ortalama 321 mm.Duruma göre GSOR 1008 ağır ve orta tanklarla hareket edebilir, uzak mesafeden atışlar yapabilir ya da savaş alanında seri otomatik yükleyicisi ve -11 dereceye ulaşan iyi top eğim açılarını konuşturabilir. Carro da Combattimento 45tCarrato final.jpg    1.jpg 2.jpg3.jpg4.jpg5.jpg6.jpg7.jpg     Diğer üst seviye İtalyan araçları gibi Carro da Combattimento 45t de otomatik yükleyici mekanizmasına sahip. 4 mermilik magazine sahip olan 120 mm'lik topu atış başına 400 puan hasar veriyor. İlk mermi 16 saniyede, son mermi ise 10 saniyede yüklenirken otomatik yükleyici her 4 saniyede bir mermi yüklüyor. Zrıh delme söz konusu olduğunda standart AP mermi 248 mm'lik delme değerine, özel APCR mermi ise 320 mm'lik delme değerine sahip. Aracın diğer değerlerine göz attığımızda 0,38 isabetlilik, 3 saniyelik nişan alma süresi, -9 derecelik top eğim açısı ve toplam 1.900 CP görüyoruz.Ön kulede ve ön zırh plakasında aşağı yukarı aynı olan etkin zırh kalınlığı 300 mm civarında. Azami hızı 55 km/s, güç/ağırlık oranı 16 bg/t.Carro da Combattimento 45t kendinizi tutmanızı ve dikkatli oynamanızı gerektiriyor. Otomatik yükleme mekanizması yüksek hasar vermenizi sağlıyor, ancak söz konusu atış olduğunda en rahat oyun deneyimini sunduğunu söyleyemeyiz Ancak harika top eğim açısı ve makul koruması araca bir hedef seçmesi için yeterince zaman tanıyor. Aracın dinamikleri savaşın başında avantajlı pozisyonlara geçip anlık değişikliklere zamanında reaksiyon verebilmenize olanak tanıyor. Günün sonunda bu üst seviye İtalyan tankından tam randıman almak oyuncuya kalmış. 


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Diskuze - Sstyxina informuje
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28.08.2020 13:22:46
 
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View PostSWAT0013, on 28 August 2020 - 11:05 AM, said:   Já myslím, že hlavně co se týče závorek, tak se využívá potenciál rozhodně aspoň na 120%, protože i když si to člověk hlídá, stejně mu tam čas od času někde něco proklouzne, co se potom mění na smajlíky :trollface::teethhappy:   Jinak jako špatný nápad to není, kdyby se někam k návodům dal návod na seznam funkcní fóra. Na druhou stranu sám za sebe třeba mohu říci, že raději to nahraji někam na externí stránku, protože jsem na to prostě zvyklý a vím, že to funguje - ale určitě se najde někdo, kdo tu funkci využije rád, ale doteď o ní prostě nevěděl ;)

Sstyx: Popřemýšlím o tom ještě, jestli jen téma nebo celou sekci (sekce je možná trochu moc). Závorky řeším již také :)


Dwigt
gamescom 2020: Sales and Specials
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28.08.2020 13:20:01
 
Subject: gamescom 2020: Sales and Specials
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View Postundutchable80, on 28 August 2020 - 06:15 AM, said: Was looking forward to a bunch of these specials! :great:   Still, very disappointed that there is no equipment discount. And excluding the Polish MTs from the TT discounts is just cheapskating.     EDIT: Wait to buy your T8+ tanks until Sunday or maybe even Monday when the September Monthly Rundown gets published, where the next TotT is announced.    EDIT 2: Are Collector's Vehicles ever going to be discounted?

Dwigt: These 2 features didn't get any discounts simply because they're still new and a discount might mess up the statistics I'm guessing.Edit 1: Good thinking altough I might say that we have a busy weekend so you just have to be careful not to miss those GC discounts.Edit 2: Not this time but they will get their discounts at some point in the future  

View PostFire_man74, on 28 August 2020 - 06:43 AM, said: Especially when referal program is not working third day....:facepalm:

Dwigt: We're aware of it and there might be a long delay counting the points and it should be fixed soon. 

View PostStahanoW, on 28 August 2020 - 06:54 AM, said: Ah, so no equipment discounts, and no discounts on the polish meds either... clearly because economic reasons.

Not if anybody asked for it, or something like that... :trollface:

Dwigt: We know that these two were the most awaited discounts but like we said earlier they are still two new features added recently. We have plenty of discounts now almost on everything and this should leave you enough time to save credits for the equipment discount later this year. 

View PostO_o_Babbuino, on 28 August 2020 - 07:11 AM, said: Simply watch monthly rundown for WOT latin america.....this is ridiculous WG

Dwigt: Keep in mind that not all regions have the same events and specials.  

View PostArnieDude, on 28 August 2020 - 07:45 AM, said: Lol, you really go out of your way to make the discounts as discomfortable as possible eh Wargaming? Why exempt the Polish mediums. Why leave it so long for equipment to be discounted. Don't you want your playerbase to be able to experience new content? I'm really confused about your lack of understanding after such a big change to the game that leaves quite a few of our tanks without any equipment at all. Wouldn't it make sense to allow the playerbase to experiment with the new equipment instead of pushing them into virtual bankruptcy?    Other then that, thanks for everything else. ;)

Dwigt: You're welcome! And the simple reason is that they're are still freshly added features! Good luck filling your depot!  

View PostGlow_Jack, on 28 August 2020 - 09:26 AM, said:

Dwigt: I got this tank yesterday and got ammo racked full hp in my first battle in it on my first ever stream. Definitely not what I expected :teethhappy:  

View PostSmegger213, on 28 August 2020 - 09:31 AM, said: Wargaming's greed gets better and better lol.   Yet again, NO equipment discount and excluding Polish mediums from discounts. What a scam.   #WalletClosed #GameStaysUninstalled

Dwigt: It's not greed if we didn't offer a discount on some features. I'm sure you'll find something interesting this time to make your crew happy! 

View PostEroe_dell_Iride, on 28 August 2020 - 10:20 AM, said: Finally a discount on tech tree tanks....FINALLY!!!!!

Dwigt: What new tier 10s should we expect in your garage soon? 

View Postsir_alex_ice, on 28 August 2020 - 10:36 AM, said: Still no discounts on equipment. Way to go WG, showing us how you care and listen to your players.

Dwigt: We heard you but it was not the right time but still, we have plenty of interesting offers for you this weekend!


Sstyx
Diskuze - Sstyxina informuje
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28.08.2020 13:00:35
 
Subject: Diskuze - Sstyxina informuje
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Sstyx: Nejdříve se ujistím, co je pro koho dostupné a postupně to někde začnu přidávat. Přemýšlím o vytvoření kategorie okolo fóra a tam dát i tyhle návody, ale nevím jestli to není zbytečné. Kam jinam by se to hodilo?


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