The Grand Finals Countdown
Дата: 26.04.2015 07:49:03
En_Ki, on Apr 25 2015 - 16:26, said: Hi All, I just used VariaVespa's quote as probably
the most representative of the responses I want to provide;
To militant83 and Moguai - thanks for your reasoned response
- I voted you up because you responded without insulting me or my
opinion, because that's all it is - an opinion. To the
others - let me just clear up a few things; I
think WoT is a great game and for the most part has excellent
graphics, poses reasonable challenges to players of all colors and
levels. It has also allowed me to share leadership skills,
communication skills, the value of drills, practice and rehearsal
BUT it's greatest value is in teaching the younger ones how to deal
with failure and that life is intrinsically not fair. They
also have a huge opportunity within a clan to learn, feel and
experience teamwork and unselfish play. They (the younger
players) have equal opportunity to provide feedback [ to me: " AIM
" ] and to get and deal with real feedback ( no [edited]) from
their peers and their callers. Then; the sense of
'entitlement' or 'immediate gratification' may be misunderstood.
The sense of entitlement that some players may have is one
that may come from the politically correct trend of not counting
goals, and everyone gets a trophy for merely turning up, (we are
all winners) - that simply does not exist in my family, or that of
the other family in our clan. My children do their chores,
keep their room clean and tidy and do their own laundry and no-one
picks up their trash for them. And 'immediate
gratification' of wants may not be what I was referring to - these
kids WORKED for their results and whatever prize they are to
get. They practiced on the maps over the weekend in a
training room, with an OpFor and had heated debates about
configurations, routes and alternatives. Their suggestions
were mostly accepted after they were tested out in the training
room. They crewed their tanks as best they could, they
readjusted their ammo loads and accessories and consumables to
allow the caller the widest array of options to work with, then
logged in an hour before the start every day, went to the training
room and ran their plan through again... and then sat in front of
their PCs and fought their way through two hours of losses and
hard fights, had a quick immediate debrief after the close of
each round and went to bed. This all AFTER their homework and
extramural activities were complete. And no, neither of them
know about this thread either. As for the WG team being in
Poland, we all know how long it should take to create an
algorithm, validate it and run it against the database from
the results... and the writing and testing of the program
could have been written before the tourney was even run, couldn't
it? So my reasonable expectation would be a couple of hours
to ensure all the data is in, deal with any complaints or claims
and resolve them and publish the results within 12 hours. (
30 minutes for the program, 60 minutes for review and ten and a
half hours for time zone issues with fat executives to get
out of bed wherever they are to sign off on the download...)
As for status quo - 'it's always been this way' - that is,
and has never been a reason to continue to do it this way,
especially with the capability and pace of today's younger society,
is it? If that were the case we'd all still be living in
caves and eating one another. I'm not even going to bother
with the personal insults. But, back to Varia's point about
paychecks - you do know that the business only reaps its profits
that the employee created for them weeks and in most cases MONTHS
AFTER they have paid their employees? So the employee
actually gets paid before the business does? WG gets their
dollars ($450 million plus at last counting) within 24 hours of
your credit card being processed FOR A VIRTUAL PRODUCT. It is
common knowledge that businesses pay their bills as late as
possible - its called cash flow management, but in this case
WGs product is a VIRTUAL product, their is no benefit to them
WHATSOEVER in delaying or deferring the publishing of the results
or the transfer of the prizes. But we're not even employee's
- WE ARE THE CUSTOMER. So why am I taking the time to write
this post? Because I believe it is crucial that a developing
player with talent in this eSport, should be able to see the
published output of their efforts directly after the tournament.
A week later is ancient history for them. It is key for
a motivator (aka Dad) to be able to link the recent effort to the
visible, public outcome while the sweat is still drying on
their faces. That is when it is most effective and not
another meaningless monologue. Name one other sport where
final results of a tournament, as large as this one is supposed to
have been, "may be posted up to seven days" after the final
match?
Emperor_Brian, on Apr 25 2015 - 16:46, said: Battle Schedule Does anyone know why my teams battle schedule today (Saturday) shows a list of teams to play with no date and time when the tourny ended Friday?
TheBorg291, on Apr 25 2015 - 19:22, said: Since there were a lot of team participating will the wait for the prizes still be the normal 2 to 3 days?
Amberpaw, on Apr 25 2015 - 20:59, said: same here. =) WG does tend to delay it (not surprising as tourny ends on friday, and they dont work till monday) but they will get the payout to you within 7 days starting on monday they should start payouts because of the 1k teams. i'd say payouts will be monday through saterday due to the large volume of em
dance210: Hi! While I do understand your frustration, we let everyone
know on the forums that we would be out of town and that official
standings wouldn't be updated until we got back. Is it what we
wanted? No...I'm a big believer in getting the official standings
updated the next morning - which would have happened if I was in
town. So, why don't we use automated standings? Well, mostly
because disputes need to be done manually. I dislike putting up
official standings and then saying oops, these have changed, sorry.
This is why I love sites like WotScout and GosuTactics (and Moguai
when he does his standings)...they are able to give players the
instant gratification of seeing how well they did after the battle
ended, which allows us some leeway in dealing with disputes.
As for the gold payouts being delayed, yes it would be awesome if
that could be done within 24 hr. Again, the delay has to do with a)
being out of town and b) the sheer number of teams once we get
back. Dealing with finalizing this tournament will be a priority
when I get back next week Again, I apologize if our
decision to wait to post official results until they were finalized
upsets you. However, it's a decision I stand by and one I would
make in the future. If I'm going to tell a team they won X prize, I
will wait until I can confirm that that is indeed the prize they
won. And if that means waiting until I return than sadly that is
what I will do. Thank you and your guys for participating in the
tournament, I hope y'all had fun!
Emperor_Brian, on Apr 25 2015 - 16:46, said: Battle Schedule Does anyone know why my teams battle schedule today (Saturday) shows a list of teams to play with no date and time when the tourny ended Friday?
dance210: Yeah...I didn't look but it seems as though a group didn't get
fully scheduled. Don't ask me how, cause I'm not quite sure. Those
battles won't count against you though.
TheBorg291, on Apr 25 2015 - 19:22, said: Since there were a lot of team participating will the wait for the prizes still be the normal 2 to 3 days?
dance210: Gold will be a bit delayed due to the number of teams and us being
out of office this weekend. So, expect it by end of week. If it's
going to be later than that, I'll let y'all know.
Amberpaw, on Apr 25 2015 - 20:59, said: same here. =) WG does tend to delay it (not surprising as tourny ends on friday, and they dont work till monday) but they will get the payout to you within 7 days starting on monday they should start payouts because of the 1k teams. i'd say payouts will be monday through saterday due to the large volume of em
dance210: Not quite. We fly in 1 am Monday, so standings/payouts will
start Tuesday
The Grand Finals Countdown