The IS-3A Reborn!
Дата: 13.12.2018 12:52:19
mrtvimarijan, on 12 December 2018 - 07:32 PM, said: Nobody was talking how Chrysler was op... Everyone was
taking a crap on a broken armor design with no weak spots, and the
fact that Its armor is useless once you press number 2.
cro001, on 12 December 2018 - 07:34 PM, said: Care to share them? Cuz sure as hell I'd be interested what do you guys use as guideline for balancing? Because most of the crapyou pulled in last year or so makes 0 sense. You buff tanks that are nowhere near priority list. T-34-2 for example hasn't been changed in ages, despite being one of, if not worst T8 in game. Indien panzer also sucks, 65T and TVP VTU are bad, but hey, IS-3A needs buff ASAP. While you still let things like 430U, VK72 and 907 going around like they are best balanced tanks. Please do enlighten us what do you use to balance the tanks, because balance hasn't been worse from start of the game.
Eaglax, on 12 December 2018 - 07:45 PM, said: what an absolute joke... so my comparison was not 100% accurate for your standards, I guess just giving an idea what I meant is not good enough, my bad and ofc that also means that we have NO clue about the game and can't judge anything because we never played it....yea...in my case, because I'm obviously a supbar player and only have 20k games.... oh wait sorry, that's not accurate, it's 19112 as of now....20k would have been completely wrong and we would have to discuss it in several posts. and ofc I should take statements like this for granted. Although the so called "abysmally long" reload in a trade-situation is the shortest possible, on par with the regular IS-3, because it has the "inverse autoreloader" and it's actually the last shell that has the "abysmally long" reload time but hey, what do I know? I don't have the tank so I am not allowed to judge that and posting about that would be non constructive, ofc I would have to buy it first... and all those CCs that say it's broken and unbalanced, also have no clue what they are talking about, let's wait another few months to see how it does, and then maybe balance it... and that's what I get back to after a half year break...
Placebo_, on 12 December 2018 - 07:50 PM, said: I believe you. As evidence we can use the first couple of months after CCs met WG staff in Cyprus. Oh wait it was a couple of years ago. Listening to playerbase feedback. It took 6 months to nerf a f***** maus. Won't even go into detail of 268v4 or 3/5/7 template.. It takes time to test things like these you might add. Doesn't look like recent stuff has been tested at all. Sandbox - what is that ?! CT was up for like what - a week or so? I know you are new into this position and want to do as good as you can, but don't make claims like that, when everyone knows the truth.
Innapropriate_Username, on 12 December 2018 - 07:50 PM, said: And what is the whole picture? considering that whole Tiger2 is a weakspot with gun-mantlet being only armored part on the tank, while the inverse is the case on IS3 turret, weakspot on IS3 turret is the size of Armor on Tiger2 turret. Tiger is Slower, has worse gun that does less damage, side armor is inviting ammo racking and "Mighty" upper front plate is armor only against Tier7 tanks. I am stating "Buyers remores" for Panther88, when can I expect it to get 250mm turret and auto-reloader? Or will it be buffed "in whole picture" with 0.2% better DPM in 2021 after enough "Testing", if this game is even alive beyond 2019. You find caernarvon a good Tier8 tank, who does not when you gave it 1) Better Bigger Gun with best DPM in class, 2) you Buffed Turret armor so it is Stronger than Tier9 E75 If you buff Tiger2 the same way you did caernarvon it would also be a good tier8 tank, when can we expect you to relive us from our Buyers Remorse for German Tiger/Panther tanks?
Lethul, on 12 December 2018 - 08:11 PM, said: @eekeeboo So now everyone who has access to it agrees that it is disgustingly OP. Am I allowed to think it is OP now or do I still have nothing to say until I have played it myself? The funny thing is if we are not allowed to speak up until it is released, when should we speak up? Now it is already released and since it is a premium you will refuse to nerf it. You have already made the game a worse game with 1.3.
jksoler, on 12 December 2018 - 08:57 PM, said: I have the IS-3A. I paid for it, and it was not OP to start. Now it seems to be OP. Fine. That means I can play it and be competitive when the MM throws me against Tier Xs and the Tier Xs in my team are red line campers. That means I can play and have fun clipping higher tier X tanks. I hope they do not nerf it too much. Maybe not sell it? So it will be like the E25 - OP but rare. That will not break the game. The problem with the game now is the MM, not the tanks. However, I agree that the German tanks need a real buff now. That would be a great step forwards.
Ciki_el_Tigre, on 12 December 2018 - 09:13 PM, said: I just can not believe what I read. After so many negative players comments, we have such announcement: “There is a chance this mechanic will be added to more vehicles in the future”. It is no longer important whether tanks in game have ANY connection to history and wars. No matter that such “mechanic” is PURE SCIENCE FICTION, “There is a chance”… I think someone in WG planning to kill the game, step by step!
eekeeboo: And again everyone commented how broken they were, x was
broken, this would break x with the game. It is important to see
the end result.
cro001, on 12 December 2018 - 07:34 PM, said: Care to share them? Cuz sure as hell I'd be interested what do you guys use as guideline for balancing? Because most of the crapyou pulled in last year or so makes 0 sense. You buff tanks that are nowhere near priority list. T-34-2 for example hasn't been changed in ages, despite being one of, if not worst T8 in game. Indien panzer also sucks, 65T and TVP VTU are bad, but hey, IS-3A needs buff ASAP. While you still let things like 430U, VK72 and 907 going around like they are best balanced tanks. Please do enlighten us what do you use to balance the tanks, because balance hasn't been worse from start of the game.
eekeeboo: I did, in a previous discussion and earlier in the thread?
Eaglax, on 12 December 2018 - 07:45 PM, said: what an absolute joke... so my comparison was not 100% accurate for your standards, I guess just giving an idea what I meant is not good enough, my bad and ofc that also means that we have NO clue about the game and can't judge anything because we never played it....yea...in my case, because I'm obviously a supbar player and only have 20k games.... oh wait sorry, that's not accurate, it's 19112 as of now....20k would have been completely wrong and we would have to discuss it in several posts. and ofc I should take statements like this for granted. Although the so called "abysmally long" reload in a trade-situation is the shortest possible, on par with the regular IS-3, because it has the "inverse autoreloader" and it's actually the last shell that has the "abysmally long" reload time but hey, what do I know? I don't have the tank so I am not allowed to judge that and posting about that would be non constructive, ofc I would have to buy it first... and all those CCs that say it's broken and unbalanced, also have no clue what they are talking about, let's wait another few months to see how it does, and then maybe balance it... and that's what I get back to after a half year break...
eekeeboo: You used an incorrect analogy to prove a point. By using an
inaccurate and flawed example you didn't prove your point at all.
Thank you for taking the time to read and taking the time to
understand the concept.
Placebo_, on 12 December 2018 - 07:50 PM, said: I believe you. As evidence we can use the first couple of months after CCs met WG staff in Cyprus. Oh wait it was a couple of years ago. Listening to playerbase feedback. It took 6 months to nerf a f***** maus. Won't even go into detail of 268v4 or 3/5/7 template.. It takes time to test things like these you might add. Doesn't look like recent stuff has been tested at all. Sandbox - what is that ?! CT was up for like what - a week or so? I know you are new into this position and want to do as good as you can, but don't make claims like that, when everyone knows the truth.
eekeeboo: Shared in another thread why balancing can take so long, not
just for the testing phase of each stage of change and
update. So "making a claim" is different to explaining the
situation which I have done.
Innapropriate_Username, on 12 December 2018 - 07:50 PM, said: And what is the whole picture? considering that whole Tiger2 is a weakspot with gun-mantlet being only armored part on the tank, while the inverse is the case on IS3 turret, weakspot on IS3 turret is the size of Armor on Tiger2 turret. Tiger is Slower, has worse gun that does less damage, side armor is inviting ammo racking and "Mighty" upper front plate is armor only against Tier7 tanks. I am stating "Buyers remores" for Panther88, when can I expect it to get 250mm turret and auto-reloader? Or will it be buffed "in whole picture" with 0.2% better DPM in 2021 after enough "Testing", if this game is even alive beyond 2019. You find caernarvon a good Tier8 tank, who does not when you gave it 1) Better Bigger Gun with best DPM in class, 2) you Buffed Turret armor so it is Stronger than Tier9 E75 If you buff Tiger2 the same way you did caernarvon it would also be a good tier8 tank, when can we expect you to relive us from our Buyers Remorse for German Tiger/Panther tanks?
eekeeboo: And again, take the time to re-read what I've typed.
Re-stating the same thing will not get you a different answer to
those I have already given you. As for never nerfing
premiums, this is not the case and changes to the vehicles are the
reason players are offered an exchange and gold compensation for
the tank or keep with it. 10:58 Added after 5
minutes
Lethul, on 12 December 2018 - 08:11 PM, said: @eekeeboo So now everyone who has access to it agrees that it is disgustingly OP. Am I allowed to think it is OP now or do I still have nothing to say until I have played it myself? The funny thing is if we are not allowed to speak up until it is released, when should we speak up? Now it is already released and since it is a premium you will refuse to nerf it. You have already made the game a worse game with 1.3.
eekeeboo: Everyone who has it already, have not "all" agreed it's
disgustingly OP. Please look at some of the posts in this thread
about it. You were asked to reserve judgment until you
actually see how it performs in more than a handful of situations
and scenarios, this should be a basic necessity for a person to
form an informed opinion.
jksoler, on 12 December 2018 - 08:57 PM, said: I have the IS-3A. I paid for it, and it was not OP to start. Now it seems to be OP. Fine. That means I can play it and be competitive when the MM throws me against Tier Xs and the Tier Xs in my team are red line campers. That means I can play and have fun clipping higher tier X tanks. I hope they do not nerf it too much. Maybe not sell it? So it will be like the E25 - OP but rare. That will not break the game. The problem with the game now is the MM, not the tanks. However, I agree that the German tanks need a real buff now. That would be a great step forwards.
eekeeboo: There should be some exciting news/announcements coming soon
on that front!
Ciki_el_Tigre, on 12 December 2018 - 09:13 PM, said: I just can not believe what I read. After so many negative players comments, we have such announcement: “There is a chance this mechanic will be added to more vehicles in the future”. It is no longer important whether tanks in game have ANY connection to history and wars. No matter that such “mechanic” is PURE SCIENCE FICTION, “There is a chance”… I think someone in WG planning to kill the game, step by step!
eekeeboo: It's a realistic statement. Like the feature on Italian
tanks, there was no statement it was meant only for Italian tanks.
If there's a tank with the mechanic in the future, then, there you
go.
The IS-3A Reborn!