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14.03.2010 05:23:40
 
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MrVic: Hey cut that talk out Breyd it makes me start twiching and needing to draw up something a bit over the top :P


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14.03.2010 05:23:40
 
Subject: Your Ideal Tank Contest
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MrVic: Hey cut that talk out Breyd it makes me start twiching and needing to draw up something a bit over the top :P


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14.03.2010 05:23:40
 
Subject: Your Ideal Tank Contest
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MrVic: Hey cut that talk out Breyd it makes me start twiching and needing to draw up something a bit over the top :P


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14.03.2010 05:23:40
 
Subject: Your Ideal Tank Contest
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MrVic: Hey cut that talk out Breyd it makes me start twiching and needing to draw up something a bit over the top :P


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13.03.2010 23:06:07
 
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View PostSyllas, on 13 March 2010 - 10:45 PM, said: ok then,you know better. what about ammunition?protection? it cant be just a gun on a platfor exposed like that can it? and another thing. how will the tanks get coordinated? you need some coordination to move around or else even the a slight difference in direction could cause problems. even stuctural failure on the legs or the tanks themselves. more than that i believe that even a difference of grip would cause problems.if one leg steps on dry land and the other on mud,no matter how good grip you have,its going to slip at some point.

MrVic: Standard HE its arty :) no need for AP with that shell size hehe Armor is not a big deal its thin skinned in that area as its a indirect weapon only. coordination as stated in the story was radio communication and there are many many ways to get them all in sync. example radial true north dials. so all the commander has to do is call out a degree and any unit could turn to it. There are numerous simple solutions to that problem. As to poor soil conditions and compaction as we refer to it in my line of work. They can be spotted well in advance since this thing is not tearing across the county side at break neck speed. But failure of one or even 2 haulers is not a huge loss overall. Thats one reason I have 6 placed at the 3 points along the hull to provide weight support to be spread evenly. 4 haulers alone can lift and move the entire machine without to much trouble. heck say you even got a hauler "mired" in mud. with system in place and weight distribution the support pedestal could even lift the hauler vertically and carry it on the other 5. Tho I would have to run numbers to be sure but I think that actually would work. And remember this machine huge but due to the redundancy in its hauler systems and the fact it literally exerts less pounds per square inch of pressure onto the ground below it then a Tiger 1. aka it would leave shallower marks on the ground as it moved in layman's terms :)
Hopefully that helps. But remember that creation was mostly for fun, as really it would not fit into WoT game :) Also if your worried on its size make sure to read up on Railway guns because they vary a lot and its hard to truly understand its size without reading up on it.


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13.03.2010 23:06:07
 
Subject: Your Ideal Tank Contest
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View PostSyllas, on Mar 13 2010 - 21:45, said: ok then,you know better. what about ammunition?protection? it cant be just a gun on a platfor exposed like that can it? and another thing. how will the tanks get coordinated? you need some coordination to move around or else even the a slight difference in direction could cause problems. even stuctural failure on the legs or the tanks themselves. more than that i believe that even a difference of grip would cause problems.if one leg steps on dry land and the other on mud,no matter how good grip you have,its going to slip at some point.


MrVic:
Standard HE its arty :)   no need for AP with that shell size hehe  Armor is not a big deal its thin skinned in that area as its a indirect weapon only.  coordination as stated in the story was radio communication and there are many many ways to get them all in sync.  example radial true north dials. so all the commander has to do is call out a degree and any unit could turn to it. There are numerous simple solutions to that problem.  As to poor soil conditions and compaction as we refer to it in my line of work.  They can be spotted well in advance since this thing is not tearing across the county side at break neck speed.  But failure of one or even 2 haulers is not a huge loss overall.  Thats one reason I have 6 placed at the 3 points along the hull to provide weight support to be spread evenly.  4 haulers alone can lift and move the entire machine without to much trouble. heck say you even got a hauler "mired" in mud.  with system in place and weight distribution the support pedestal could even lift the hauler vertically and carry it on the other 5. Tho I would have to run numbers to be sure but I think that actually would work.  And remember this machine huge but due to the redundancy in its hauler systems and the fact it literally exerts less pounds per square inch of pressure onto the ground below it then a Tiger 1. aka it would leave shallower marks on the ground as it moved in layman's terms :)

Hopefully that helps. But remember that creation was mostly for fun, as really it would not fit into WoT game :)  Also if your worried on its size make sure to read up on Railway guns because they vary a lot and its hard to truly understand its size without reading up on it.


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13.03.2010 23:06:07
 
Subject: Your Ideal Tank Contest
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View PostSyllas, on Mar 13 2010 - 21:45, said: ok then,you know better. what about ammunition?protection? it cant be just a gun on a platfor exposed like that can it? and another thing. how will the tanks get coordinated? you need some coordination to move around or else even the a slight difference in direction could cause problems. even stuctural failure on the legs or the tanks themselves. more than that i believe that even a difference of grip would cause problems.if one leg steps on dry land and the other on mud,no matter how good grip you have,its going to slip at some point.


MrVic:
Standard HE its arty :)   no need for AP with that shell size hehe  Armor is not a big deal its thin skinned in that area as its a indirect weapon only.  coordination as stated in the story was radio communication and there are many many ways to get them all in sync.  example radial true north dials. so all the commander has to do is call out a degree and any unit could turn to it. There are numerous simple solutions to that problem.  As to poor soil conditions and compaction as we refer to it in my line of work.  They can be spotted well in advance since this thing is not tearing across the county side at break neck speed.  But failure of one or even 2 haulers is not a huge loss overall.  Thats one reason I have 6 placed at the 3 points along the hull to provide weight support to be spread evenly.  4 haulers alone can lift and move the entire machine without to much trouble. heck say you even got a hauler "mired" in mud.  with system in place and weight distribution the support pedestal could even lift the hauler vertically and carry it on the other 5. Tho I would have to run numbers to be sure but I think that actually would work.  And remember this machine huge but due to the redundancy in its hauler systems and the fact it literally exerts less pounds per square inch of pressure onto the ground below it then a Tiger 1. aka it would leave shallower marks on the ground as it moved in layman's terms :)

Hopefully that helps. But remember that creation was mostly for fun, as really it would not fit into WoT game :)  Also if your worried on its size make sure to read up on Railway guns because they vary a lot and its hard to truly understand its size without reading up on it.


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13.03.2010 23:06:07
 
Subject: Your Ideal Tank Contest
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View PostSyllas, on Mar 13 2010 - 21:45, said: ok then,you know better. what about ammunition?protection? it cant be just a gun on a platfor exposed like that can it? and another thing. how will the tanks get coordinated? you need some coordination to move around or else even the a slight difference in direction could cause problems. even stuctural failure on the legs or the tanks themselves. more than that i believe that even a difference of grip would cause problems.if one leg steps on dry land and the other on mud,no matter how good grip you have,its going to slip at some point.


MrVic:
Standard HE its arty :)   no need for AP with that shell size hehe  Armor is not a big deal its thin skinned in that area as its a indirect weapon only.  coordination as stated in the story was radio communication and there are many many ways to get them all in sync.  example radial true north dials. so all the commander has to do is call out a degree and any unit could turn to it. There are numerous simple solutions to that problem.  As to poor soil conditions and compaction as we refer to it in my line of work.  They can be spotted well in advance since this thing is not tearing across the county side at break neck speed.  But failure of one or even 2 haulers is not a huge loss overall.  Thats one reason I have 6 placed at the 3 points along the hull to provide weight support to be spread evenly.  4 haulers alone can lift and move the entire machine without to much trouble. heck say you even got a hauler "mired" in mud.  with system in place and weight distribution the support pedestal could even lift the hauler vertically and carry it on the other 5. Tho I would have to run numbers to be sure but I think that actually would work.  And remember this machine huge but due to the redundancy in its hauler systems and the fact it literally exerts less pounds per square inch of pressure onto the ground below it then a Tiger 1. aka it would leave shallower marks on the ground as it moved in layman's terms :)

Hopefully that helps. But remember that creation was mostly for fun, as really it would not fit into WoT game :)  Also if your worried on its size make sure to read up on Railway guns because they vary a lot and its hard to truly understand its size without reading up on it.


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13.03.2010 20:13:16
 
Subject: Contests & Competitions\Contests\Your Ideal Tank Contest
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View PostManiox, on 13 March 2010 - 08:10 PM, said: But i really liked the last tank i made :V, would be cool if they brought in da MCMP supah tank

MrVic: Yeah when I started out on this I figured "what the heck" and gave it a shot. Now as I have done a few tanks and about 8 I have sitting around that I scrapped I realized I learned a ton about drawing and more WW2 info which has been great.


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13.03.2010 20:13:16
 
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View PostManiox, on Mar 13 2010 - 19:10, said: But i really liked the last tank i made :V, would be cool if they brought in da MCMP supah tank


MrVic:
Yeah when I started out on this I figured "what the heck" and gave it a shot. Now as I have done a few tanks and about 8 I have sitting around that I scrapped I realized I learned a ton about drawing and more WW2 info which has been great.


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13.03.2010 20:13:16
 
Subject: Your Ideal Tank Contest
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View PostManiox, on Mar 13 2010 - 19:10, said: But i really liked the last tank i made :V, would be cool if they brought in da MCMP supah tank


MrVic:
Yeah when I started out on this I figured "what the heck" and gave it a shot. Now as I have done a few tanks and about 8 I have sitting around that I scrapped I realized I learned a ton about drawing and more WW2 info which has been great.


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13.03.2010 20:13:16
 
Subject: Your Ideal Tank Contest
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View PostManiox, on Mar 13 2010 - 19:10, said: But i really liked the last tank i made :V, would be cool if they brought in da MCMP supah tank


MrVic:
Yeah when I started out on this I figured "what the heck" and gave it a shot. Now as I have done a few tanks and about 8 I have sitting around that I scrapped I realized I learned a ton about drawing and more WW2 info which has been great.


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13.03.2010 20:07:54
 
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View PostManiox, on 13 March 2010 - 08:02 PM, said: I guess i wont win anything of either the tanks i`ve submitted with all the other pro ideas that`s here lol, and this is just the top of the iceberg since i assume a ton of ppl are working on tanks now

MrVic: One thing to remember 1 person I do not think will win 1st through 8th place :) If thats how it works out more then likely they would give out their keys to others that worked hard in this contest. Well thats what I would do. :)


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13.03.2010 20:07:54
 
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View PostManiox, on Mar 13 2010 - 19:02, said: I guess i wont win anything of either the tanks i`ve submitted with all the other pro ideas that`s here lol, and this is just the top of the iceberg since i assume a ton of ppl are working on tanks now


MrVic:
One thing to remember  1 person I do not think will win 1st through 8th place :)   If thats how it works out more then likely they would give out their keys to others that worked hard in this contest. Well thats what I would do.  :)


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13.03.2010 20:07:54
 
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View PostManiox, on Mar 13 2010 - 19:02, said: I guess i wont win anything of either the tanks i`ve submitted with all the other pro ideas that`s here lol, and this is just the top of the iceberg since i assume a ton of ppl are working on tanks now


MrVic:
One thing to remember  1 person I do not think will win 1st through 8th place :)   If thats how it works out more then likely they would give out their keys to others that worked hard in this contest. Well thats what I would do.  :)


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13.03.2010 20:07:54
 
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View PostManiox, on Mar 13 2010 - 19:02, said: I guess i wont win anything of either the tanks i`ve submitted with all the other pro ideas that`s here lol, and this is just the top of the iceberg since i assume a ton of ppl are working on tanks now


MrVic:
One thing to remember  1 person I do not think will win 1st through 8th place :)   If thats how it works out more then likely they would give out their keys to others that worked hard in this contest. Well thats what I would do.  :)


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13.03.2010 19:15:06
 
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View PostBreyd1971, on 13 March 2010 - 06:50 PM, said: I guess this is the moment for the famous captain Kirk "KHAAAAAAAAN!!!" imitation...
I have to admit I have toyed with the idea myself, but when reading up on recoil and sheer weight distribution I wasn't sure how to turn that into an independent weapons platform. Given it takes a crew of about 100 people to get one of those weapons in action.
However, talking naval guns and rolling bismarcks and such last night my mind's been going overload with a few concepts now...

MrVic: Yeah this is the reason I did not use the Gustav railway gun has jump off point (Tho I tried to haha) It just was well beyond what I could compensate for.


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13.03.2010 19:15:06
 
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View PostBreyd1971, on Mar 13 2010 - 17:50, said: I guess this is the moment for the famous captain Kirk "KHAAAAAAAAN!!!" imitation...
I have to admit I have toyed with the idea myself, but when reading up on recoil and sheer weight distribution I wasn't sure how to turn that into an independent weapons platform. Given it takes a crew of about 100 people to get one of those weapons in action.

However, talking naval guns and rolling bismarcks and such last night my mind's been going overload with a few concepts now...


MrVic:
Yeah this is the reason I did not use the Gustav railway gun has jump off point (Tho I tried to haha)  It just was well beyond what I could compensate for.


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13.03.2010 19:15:06
 
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View PostBreyd1971, on Mar 13 2010 - 17:50, said: I guess this is the moment for the famous captain Kirk "KHAAAAAAAAN!!!" imitation...
I have to admit I have toyed with the idea myself, but when reading up on recoil and sheer weight distribution I wasn't sure how to turn that into an independent weapons platform. Given it takes a crew of about 100 people to get one of those weapons in action.

However, talking naval guns and rolling bismarcks and such last night my mind's been going overload with a few concepts now...


MrVic:
Yeah this is the reason I did not use the Gustav railway gun has jump off point (Tho I tried to haha)  It just was well beyond what I could compensate for.


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13.03.2010 19:15:06
 
Subject: Your Ideal Tank Contest
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View PostBreyd1971, on Mar 13 2010 - 17:50, said: I guess this is the moment for the famous captain Kirk "KHAAAAAAAAN!!!" imitation...
I have to admit I have toyed with the idea myself, but when reading up on recoil and sheer weight distribution I wasn't sure how to turn that into an independent weapons platform. Given it takes a crew of about 100 people to get one of those weapons in action.

However, talking naval guns and rolling bismarcks and such last night my mind's been going overload with a few concepts now...


MrVic:
Yeah this is the reason I did not use the Gustav railway gun has jump off point (Tho I tried to haha)  It just was well beyond what I could compensate for.


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13.03.2010 18:30:02
 
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View PostSyllas, on 13 March 2010 - 03:18 PM, said: wow MrVic...! the recoil of this beast would just dig the tanks on the ground,or destroy the turret mechanisms,or at least rip the brakes to pieces. i think for a gun of this size a single oversized platform would be better. huge superheavy duty suspension and brakes and a realy epowerful engine would do the job.that way you could just put on top the gun+its turret and indside enough shells to last for a big battle.

MrVic: hehe If you look closely at the legs their sleeved cylinder supports to the take most of the force of firing while allowing the tank to traverse uneven terrain of the country side.
combined with 4 ground contact points per hauler gives it 24 tracks to run on and help distribute the weight even more. My rough math this thing has a smaller ground pressure foot print per square inch then a Tiger 1 :) Tho I am still crunching a few number. double checking my tonnage range currently. With numerous wide spread points for distribution of weight and aided by horizontal and vertical shock absorption amazing things can happen :)


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13.03.2010 18:30:02
 
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View PostSyllas, on Mar 13 2010 - 14:18, said: wow MrVic...! the recoil of this beast would just dig the tanks on the ground,or destroy the turret mechanisms,or at least rip the brakes to pieces. i think for a gun of this size a single oversized platform would be better. huge superheavy duty suspension and brakes and a realy epowerful engine would do the job.that way you could just put on top the gun+its turret and indside enough shells to last for a big battle.


MrVic:
hehe If you look closely at the legs their sleeved cylinder supports to the take most of the force of firing while allowing the tank to traverse uneven terrain of the country side.
combined with 4 ground contact points per hauler gives it 24 tracks to run on and help distribute the weight even more.  My rough math this thing has a smaller ground pressure foot print per square inch then a Tiger 1 :)  Tho I am still crunching a few number.  double checking my tonnage range currently. With numerous wide spread points for distribution of weight and aided by horizontal and vertical shock absorption amazing things can happen :)


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13.03.2010 18:30:02
 
Subject: Your Ideal Tank Contest
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View PostSyllas, on Mar 13 2010 - 14:18, said: wow MrVic...! the recoil of this beast would just dig the tanks on the ground,or destroy the turret mechanisms,or at least rip the brakes to pieces. i think for a gun of this size a single oversized platform would be better. huge superheavy duty suspension and brakes and a realy epowerful engine would do the job.that way you could just put on top the gun+its turret and indside enough shells to last for a big battle.


MrVic:
hehe If you look closely at the legs their sleeved cylinder supports to the take most of the force of firing while allowing the tank to traverse uneven terrain of the country side.
combined with 4 ground contact points per hauler gives it 24 tracks to run on and help distribute the weight even more.  My rough math this thing has a smaller ground pressure foot print per square inch then a Tiger 1 :)  Tho I am still crunching a few number.  double checking my tonnage range currently. With numerous wide spread points for distribution of weight and aided by horizontal and vertical shock absorption amazing things can happen :)


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13.03.2010 18:30:02
 
Subject: Your Ideal Tank Contest
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View PostSyllas, on Mar 13 2010 - 14:18, said: wow MrVic...! the recoil of this beast would just dig the tanks on the ground,or destroy the turret mechanisms,or at least rip the brakes to pieces. i think for a gun of this size a single oversized platform would be better. huge superheavy duty suspension and brakes and a realy epowerful engine would do the job.that way you could just put on top the gun+its turret and indside enough shells to last for a big battle.


MrVic:
hehe If you look closely at the legs their sleeved cylinder supports to the take most of the force of firing while allowing the tank to traverse uneven terrain of the country side.
combined with 4 ground contact points per hauler gives it 24 tracks to run on and help distribute the weight even more.  My rough math this thing has a smaller ground pressure foot print per square inch then a Tiger 1 :)  Tho I am still crunching a few number.  double checking my tonnage range currently. With numerous wide spread points for distribution of weight and aided by horizontal and vertical shock absorption amazing things can happen :)


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13.03.2010 18:15:13
 
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View PostKurt_Knispel, on 13 March 2010 - 09:12 AM, said: Ah MrVic, you and I are of a mind...
Was sketching out something a lot like that with a V-3 Hochdruckpumpe earlier today. A P.1500 Monster base with folding supports on a pair Maus's (Mice??) as a sort of bipod. The whole think would have to have a strongback scafold to support it and a kind of tiller like steering system. Silly but it would be glorious :lol:
And yeah I suppose that could work. Only stumbling block (besides moving the thing ;) ) may be recoil. Railway guns use a certain amount of roll out to absorb energy. You'd need a sliding resistor of some sort, but yeah also workable.

MrVic: Dealing with the recoil ended up being simple. Its all in the hydraulics. By fully extending the cylinder supports and switching the entire system over to a set of pressure release valves set with the right psi release threshold and controlled bleed off lines. That combined with the option to tie each clyinder into a air/gas reservoir you literally turn them into shock absorbers. It just takes some plumbing and make sure all the cylinders are switched over prior to firing. Heck you can even reset the thing on a section of track and use it if you like also. Tho that option seemed less epic :)


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13.03.2010 18:15:13
 
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View PostKurt_Knispel, on Mar 13 2010 - 08:12, said: Ah MrVic, you and I are of a mind...
Was sketching out something a lot like that with a V-3 Hochdruckpumpe earlier today. A P.1500 Monster base with folding supports on a pair Maus's (Mice??) as a sort of bipod. The whole think would have to have a strongback scafold to support it and a kind of tiller like steering system. Silly but it would be glorious  :lol:

And yeah I suppose that could work. Only stumbling block (besides moving the thing  ;) ) may be recoil. Railway guns use a certain amount of roll out to absorb energy. You'd need a sliding resistor of some sort, but yeah also workable.


MrVic:
Dealing with the recoil ended up being simple. Its all in the hydraulics. By fully extending the cylinder supports and switching the entire system over to a set of pressure release valves set with the right psi release threshold and controlled bleed off lines. That combined with the option to tie each clyinder into a air/gas reservoir you literally turn them into shock absorbers.  It just takes some plumbing and make sure all the cylinders are switched over prior to firing. Heck you can even reset the thing on a section of track and use it if you like also. Tho that option seemed less epic :)


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13.03.2010 18:15:13
 
Subject: Your Ideal Tank Contest
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View PostKurt_Knispel, on Mar 13 2010 - 08:12, said: Ah MrVic, you and I are of a mind...
Was sketching out something a lot like that with a V-3 Hochdruckpumpe earlier today. A P.1500 Monster base with folding supports on a pair Maus's (Mice??) as a sort of bipod. The whole think would have to have a strongback scafold to support it and a kind of tiller like steering system. Silly but it would be glorious  :lol:

And yeah I suppose that could work. Only stumbling block (besides moving the thing  ;) ) may be recoil. Railway guns use a certain amount of roll out to absorb energy. You'd need a sliding resistor of some sort, but yeah also workable.


MrVic:
Dealing with the recoil ended up being simple. Its all in the hydraulics. By fully extending the cylinder supports and switching the entire system over to a set of pressure release valves set with the right psi release threshold and controlled bleed off lines. That combined with the option to tie each clyinder into a air/gas reservoir you literally turn them into shock absorbers.  It just takes some plumbing and make sure all the cylinders are switched over prior to firing. Heck you can even reset the thing on a section of track and use it if you like also. Tho that option seemed less epic :)


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13.03.2010 18:15:13
 
Subject: Your Ideal Tank Contest
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View PostKurt_Knispel, on Mar 13 2010 - 08:12, said: Ah MrVic, you and I are of a mind...
Was sketching out something a lot like that with a V-3 Hochdruckpumpe earlier today. A P.1500 Monster base with folding supports on a pair Maus's (Mice??) as a sort of bipod. The whole think would have to have a strongback scafold to support it and a kind of tiller like steering system. Silly but it would be glorious  :lol:

And yeah I suppose that could work. Only stumbling block (besides moving the thing  ;) ) may be recoil. Railway guns use a certain amount of roll out to absorb energy. You'd need a sliding resistor of some sort, but yeah also workable.


MrVic:
Dealing with the recoil ended up being simple. Its all in the hydraulics. By fully extending the cylinder supports and switching the entire system over to a set of pressure release valves set with the right psi release threshold and controlled bleed off lines. That combined with the option to tie each clyinder into a air/gas reservoir you literally turn them into shock absorbers.  It just takes some plumbing and make sure all the cylinders are switched over prior to firing. Heck you can even reset the thing on a section of track and use it if you like also. Tho that option seemed less epic :)


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13.03.2010 08:06:44
 
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MrVic: German BFG VII
Nicknamed “The Final Word"
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Origins
Wilhelm Von Lichtenstein, the creator of the BFG VII. Served in a artillery regiment in World War 1.
At the end of the war he was not the same man that had entered the war years before. Most said he was
either creative insane madman or a madman insanely creative…. He returned to his father’s home and
took over the family’s legacy…The family steel mill. Shortly after rejoining the mill’s work force he
approached his father asking permission to build the ultimate artillery piece. His father refused
and the fights and arguments ensued. This daily feud between father and son went on for months always
ending with his father getting the last word in each and every argument they had. Then one day
Wilhelm Von Lichtenstein‘s father turned up missing and a freshly dug flower bed was noticed at
that family manor.
The workers of the mill feared the worst, seeing as they had no other means for making a living they
kept quiet hoping everything would blow over. Before the flowers could even bloom in the new family
garden Wilhelm Von Lichtenstein was setting about his plan to great the greatest artillery system the
world had ever seen. As the months passed it slowly took shape. Wilhelm Von Lichtenstein hired some
of the best mechanical engineers in the world to assist him his pursuits. This was quickly draining the
family fortune but Whilhelm so obsessed did not care. The main problem he had was making the weapon mobile.
The team of engineers came up with a hydraulic based system of balancing the weight and using hydraulic cylinders
based off 6 support legs of the artillery carriage. Each heavy hauler would be double tracked giving each one a
total of 4 tracked sections to pull the monster weapon into battle. This combined with pivot point on each
hauler made it so the haulers could turn and track to rotate the massive weapon with relative ease. Each
hauler stayed in contact with each driver over the radio and make such turns smooth. One of Whilhelm’s biggest
issues was the engines need to power all the systems. Utilizing no less than 24 Maybach HL120TRM gave the
beast a roaring 7200 hp. With 4 engines in each hauler mobility was achieved easily. A last minute addition
was the ability to set the BFG VII on 2 railcar transporters. Once it was centered over the railcars it would
lower itself onto them from the cylinders and the haulers would be disconnected from the guns hull and loaded
onto separate train cars. This gave the BFG VII the ability to move to a fight at much faster speeds then
Whilhelm ever dreamed.
When the outbreak of WW2 broke out Whilhelm was overjoyed! He loaded his artillery now nicknamed “The Final Word”
and raced off to the war. Whilhelm was asked many time why his creation was nicknamed “The Final Word” he always
told them “It’s the final word the enemies hear from the blast of my gun!” The few surviving steel mill workers
tell a different story. They all stated when asked about the name “Whilhelm’s father always got the final word in
every argument….until the day Whilhelm built a garden and built his precious gun, the source of all those arguments”
General Data
Formal Designation............BFG VII (Nicknamed "The Final Word"
Manufacturer(s) .................Wilhelm Von Lichtenstein
Production Quantity...........1
Type.................................Self Propelled Artillery
Length (m)..........................32 m (105 ft)
Combat Weight (kg)...................274 Tons
Production Period..............1939
Crew.............................25
Primary Armament................283 mm (11.14 in)Cannon
Traverse (degrees)............360 (6 x Hauler)
Elevation (degrees)..........+50°
Muzzle velocity..................1,120 m/s (3,675 ft/s)
Shell.....................................255 kg (562 lbs)
Secondary Armament............Awesomeness
Engine Make & Model...........Maybach HL120TRM
Horsepower (max.)..............7200 Hp
Speed...................................Slow
Track Ground Contact.............Lots
Designer Notes
Well they wanted a super tank!
That and we need more Self propelled artillery entries. … Okay I admit it I just had to make this nutso thing.
Sad thing is after talking to a mechanical engineer friend the last 2 days about this, so far that we can tell this thing actually is feasible LMAO
Well if we still think we need bigger I guess I can stick some tracks on the Bismarck and go nuts. (Please don’t make me)
Going to add more technical data later (cough when I get the info compiled from my friend)


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MrVic: German BFG VII

Nicknamed “The Final Word"


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Origins

Wilhelm Von Lichtenstein,  the creator of the BFG VII. Served in a artillery regiment in World War 1.
At the end of the war he was not the same man that had entered the war years before.  Most said he was
either creative insane madman or a madman insanely creative….  He returned to his father’s home and
took over the family’s legacy…The family steel mill.  Shortly after rejoining the mill’s work force he
approached his father asking permission to build the ultimate artillery piece.  His father refused
and the fights and arguments ensued. This daily feud between father and son went on for months always
ending with his father getting the last word in each and every argument they had.  Then one day
Wilhelm Von Lichtenstein‘s father turned up missing and a freshly dug flower bed was noticed at
that family manor.

    The workers of the mill feared the worst, seeing as they had no other means for making a living they
kept quiet hoping everything would blow over.  Before the flowers could even bloom in the new family
garden Wilhelm Von Lichtenstein was setting about his plan to great the greatest artillery system the
world had ever seen.   As the months passed it slowly took shape.  Wilhelm Von Lichtenstein hired some
of the best mechanical engineers in the world to assist him his pursuits.  This was quickly draining the
family fortune but Whilhelm so obsessed did not care.  The main problem he had was making the weapon mobile.
  The team of engineers came up with a hydraulic based system of balancing the weight and using hydraulic cylinders
based off 6 support legs of the artillery carriage.  Each heavy hauler would be double tracked giving each one a
total of 4 tracked sections to pull the monster weapon into battle.  This combined with pivot point on each
hauler made it so the haulers could turn and track to rotate the massive weapon with relative ease.  Each
hauler stayed in contact with each driver over the radio and make such turns smooth.  One of Whilhelm’s biggest
issues was the engines need to power all the systems.  Utilizing no less than 24 Maybach HL120TRM gave the
beast a roaring 7200 hp. With 4 engines in each hauler mobility was achieved easily.  A last minute addition
was the ability to set the BFG VII on 2 railcar transporters.  Once it was centered over the railcars it would
lower itself onto them from the cylinders and the haulers would be disconnected from the guns hull and loaded
onto separate train cars. This gave the BFG VII the ability to move to a fight at much faster speeds then
Whilhelm ever dreamed.

When the outbreak of WW2 broke out Whilhelm was overjoyed!  He loaded his artillery now nicknamed “The Final Word”
and raced off to the war.  Whilhelm was asked many time why his creation was nicknamed “The Final Word” he always
told them “It’s the final word the enemies hear from the blast of my gun!”  The few surviving steel mill workers
tell a different story. They all stated when asked about the name “Whilhelm’s father always got the final word in
every argument….until the day Whilhelm built a garden and built his precious gun, the source of all those arguments”

General Data
Formal Designation............BFG VII (Nicknamed "The Final Word"
Manufacturer(s) .................Wilhelm Von Lichtenstein
Production Quantity...........1
Type.................................Self Propelled Artillery
Length (m)..........................32 m (105 ft)
Combat Weight (kg)...................274 Tons
Production Period..............1939
Crew.............................25

Primary Armament................283 mm (11.14 in)Cannon
Traverse (degrees)............360 (6 x Hauler)
Elevation (degrees)..........+50°
Muzzle velocity..................1,120 m/s (3,675 ft/s)
Shell.....................................255 kg (562 lbs)
Secondary Armament............Awesomeness
Engine Make & Model...........Maybach HL120TRM
Horsepower (max.)..............7200 Hp
Speed...................................Slow
Track Ground Contact.............Lots





Designer Notes
Well they wanted a super tank!  
That and we need more Self propelled artillery entries. … Okay I admit it I just had to make this nutso thing.
Sad thing is after talking to a mechanical engineer friend the last 2 days about this, so far that we can tell this thing actually is feasible LMAO
Well if we still think we need bigger I guess I can stick some tracks on the Bismarck and go nuts. (Please don’t make me)
Going to add more technical data later (cough when I get the info compiled from my friend)


MrVic
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MrVic: German BFG VII

Nicknamed “The Final Word"


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Origins

Wilhelm Von Lichtenstein,  the creator of the BFG VII. Served in a artillery regiment in World War 1.
At the end of the war he was not the same man that had entered the war years before.  Most said he was
either creative insane madman or a madman insanely creative….  He returned to his father’s home and
took over the family’s legacy…The family steel mill.  Shortly after rejoining the mill’s work force he
approached his father asking permission to build the ultimate artillery piece.  His father refused
and the fights and arguments ensued. This daily feud between father and son went on for months always
ending with his father getting the last word in each and every argument they had.  Then one day
Wilhelm Von Lichtenstein‘s father turned up missing and a freshly dug flower bed was noticed at
that family manor.

    The workers of the mill feared the worst, seeing as they had no other means for making a living they
kept quiet hoping everything would blow over.  Before the flowers could even bloom in the new family
garden Wilhelm Von Lichtenstein was setting about his plan to great the greatest artillery system the
world had ever seen.   As the months passed it slowly took shape.  Wilhelm Von Lichtenstein hired some
of the best mechanical engineers in the world to assist him his pursuits.  This was quickly draining the
family fortune but Whilhelm so obsessed did not care.  The main problem he had was making the weapon mobile.
  The team of engineers came up with a hydraulic based system of balancing the weight and using hydraulic cylinders
based off 6 support legs of the artillery carriage.  Each heavy hauler would be double tracked giving each one a
total of 4 tracked sections to pull the monster weapon into battle.  This combined with pivot point on each
hauler made it so the haulers could turn and track to rotate the massive weapon with relative ease.  Each
hauler stayed in contact with each driver over the radio and make such turns smooth.  One of Whilhelm’s biggest
issues was the engines need to power all the systems.  Utilizing no less than 24 Maybach HL120TRM gave the
beast a roaring 7200 hp. With 4 engines in each hauler mobility was achieved easily.  A last minute addition
was the ability to set the BFG VII on 2 railcar transporters.  Once it was centered over the railcars it would
lower itself onto them from the cylinders and the haulers would be disconnected from the guns hull and loaded
onto separate train cars. This gave the BFG VII the ability to move to a fight at much faster speeds then
Whilhelm ever dreamed.

When the outbreak of WW2 broke out Whilhelm was overjoyed!  He loaded his artillery now nicknamed “The Final Word”
and raced off to the war.  Whilhelm was asked many time why his creation was nicknamed “The Final Word” he always
told them “It’s the final word the enemies hear from the blast of my gun!”  The few surviving steel mill workers
tell a different story. They all stated when asked about the name “Whilhelm’s father always got the final word in
every argument….until the day Whilhelm built a garden and built his precious gun, the source of all those arguments”

General Data
Formal Designation............BFG VII (Nicknamed "The Final Word"
Manufacturer(s) .................Wilhelm Von Lichtenstein
Production Quantity...........1
Type.................................Self Propelled Artillery
Length (m)..........................32 m (105 ft)
Combat Weight (kg)...................274 Tons
Production Period..............1939
Crew.............................25

Primary Armament................283 mm (11.14 in)Cannon
Traverse (degrees)............360 (6 x Hauler)
Elevation (degrees)..........+50°
Muzzle velocity..................1,120 m/s (3,675 ft/s)
Shell.....................................255 kg (562 lbs)
Secondary Armament............Awesomeness
Engine Make & Model...........Maybach HL120TRM
Horsepower (max.)..............7200 Hp
Speed...................................Slow
Track Ground Contact.............Lots





Designer Notes
Well they wanted a super tank!  
That and we need more Self propelled artillery entries. … Okay I admit it I just had to make this nutso thing.
Sad thing is after talking to a mechanical engineer friend the last 2 days about this, so far that we can tell this thing actually is feasible LMAO
Well if we still think we need bigger I guess I can stick some tracks on the Bismarck and go nuts. (Please don’t make me)
Going to add more technical data later (cough when I get the info compiled from my friend)


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13.03.2010 08:06:44
 
Subject: Your Ideal Tank Contest
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MrVic: German BFG VII

Nicknamed “The Final Word"


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Origins

Wilhelm Von Lichtenstein,  the creator of the BFG VII. Served in a artillery regiment in World War 1.
At the end of the war he was not the same man that had entered the war years before.  Most said he was
either creative insane madman or a madman insanely creative….  He returned to his father’s home and
took over the family’s legacy…The family steel mill.  Shortly after rejoining the mill’s work force he
approached his father asking permission to build the ultimate artillery piece.  His father refused
and the fights and arguments ensued. This daily feud between father and son went on for months always
ending with his father getting the last word in each and every argument they had.  Then one day
Wilhelm Von Lichtenstein‘s father turned up missing and a freshly dug flower bed was noticed at
that family manor.

    The workers of the mill feared the worst, seeing as they had no other means for making a living they
kept quiet hoping everything would blow over.  Before the flowers could even bloom in the new family
garden Wilhelm Von Lichtenstein was setting about his plan to great the greatest artillery system the
world had ever seen.   As the months passed it slowly took shape.  Wilhelm Von Lichtenstein hired some
of the best mechanical engineers in the world to assist him his pursuits.  This was quickly draining the
family fortune but Whilhelm so obsessed did not care.  The main problem he had was making the weapon mobile.
  The team of engineers came up with a hydraulic based system of balancing the weight and using hydraulic cylinders
based off 6 support legs of the artillery carriage.  Each heavy hauler would be double tracked giving each one a
total of 4 tracked sections to pull the monster weapon into battle.  This combined with pivot point on each
hauler made it so the haulers could turn and track to rotate the massive weapon with relative ease.  Each
hauler stayed in contact with each driver over the radio and make such turns smooth.  One of Whilhelm’s biggest
issues was the engines need to power all the systems.  Utilizing no less than 24 Maybach HL120TRM gave the
beast a roaring 7200 hp. With 4 engines in each hauler mobility was achieved easily.  A last minute addition
was the ability to set the BFG VII on 2 railcar transporters.  Once it was centered over the railcars it would
lower itself onto them from the cylinders and the haulers would be disconnected from the guns hull and loaded
onto separate train cars. This gave the BFG VII the ability to move to a fight at much faster speeds then
Whilhelm ever dreamed.

When the outbreak of WW2 broke out Whilhelm was overjoyed!  He loaded his artillery now nicknamed “The Final Word”
and raced off to the war.  Whilhelm was asked many time why his creation was nicknamed “The Final Word” he always
told them “It’s the final word the enemies hear from the blast of my gun!”  The few surviving steel mill workers
tell a different story. They all stated when asked about the name “Whilhelm’s father always got the final word in
every argument….until the day Whilhelm built a garden and built his precious gun, the source of all those arguments”

General Data
Formal Designation............BFG VII (Nicknamed "The Final Word"
Manufacturer(s) .................Wilhelm Von Lichtenstein
Production Quantity...........1
Type.................................Self Propelled Artillery
Length (m)..........................32 m (105 ft)
Combat Weight (kg)...................274 Tons
Production Period..............1939
Crew.............................25

Primary Armament................283 mm (11.14 in)Cannon
Traverse (degrees)............360 (6 x Hauler)
Elevation (degrees)..........+50°
Muzzle velocity..................1,120 m/s (3,675 ft/s)
Shell.....................................255 kg (562 lbs)
Secondary Armament............Awesomeness
Engine Make & Model...........Maybach HL120TRM
Horsepower (max.)..............7200 Hp
Speed...................................Slow
Track Ground Contact.............Lots





Designer Notes
Well they wanted a super tank!  
That and we need more Self propelled artillery entries. … Okay I admit it I just had to make this nutso thing.
Sad thing is after talking to a mechanical engineer friend the last 2 days about this, so far that we can tell this thing actually is feasible LMAO
Well if we still think we need bigger I guess I can stick some tracks on the Bismarck and go nuts. (Please don’t make me)
Going to add more technical data later (cough when I get the info compiled from my friend)


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View PostSyllas, on 13 March 2010 - 01:01 AM, said: very interesting concept! the trailer would be a burden thoug. but you can always park it in a safe place and when you're out run back for refueling.
i was wondering,could some extra fuel be stored in a large cavity between steel plates under the tank? i mean,indside the armor under on the bottom of the tank.

MrVic: The trailer is the fuel tank (ammo) none is stored inside short of the feed hoses from the trailer :) its stored outside to prevent instant death to it being hit if it was internally contained in the tank itself.


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View PostSyllas, on Mar 13 2010 - 00:01, said: very interesting concept! the trailer would be a burden thoug. but you can always park it in a safe place and when you're out run back for refueling.
i was wondering,could some extra fuel be stored in a large cavity between steel plates under the tank? i mean,indside the armor under on the bottom of the tank.


MrVic:
The trailer is the fuel tank (ammo) none is stored inside short of the feed hoses from the trailer :) its stored outside to prevent instant death to it being hit if it was internally contained in the tank itself.


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View PostSyllas, on Mar 13 2010 - 00:01, said: very interesting concept! the trailer would be a burden thoug. but you can always park it in a safe place and when you're out run back for refueling.
i was wondering,could some extra fuel be stored in a large cavity between steel plates under the tank? i mean,indside the armor under on the bottom of the tank.


MrVic:
The trailer is the fuel tank (ammo) none is stored inside short of the feed hoses from the trailer :) its stored outside to prevent instant death to it being hit if it was internally contained in the tank itself.


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View PostSyllas, on Mar 13 2010 - 00:01, said: very interesting concept! the trailer would be a burden thoug. but you can always park it in a safe place and when you're out run back for refueling.
i was wondering,could some extra fuel be stored in a large cavity between steel plates under the tank? i mean,indside the armor under on the bottom of the tank.


MrVic:
The trailer is the fuel tank (ammo) none is stored inside short of the feed hoses from the trailer :) its stored outside to prevent instant death to it being hit if it was internally contained in the tank itself.


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