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20.10.2010 00:22:27
 
Subject: Important Information\Updates & Patch Notes\beta 0.6.1.5 update
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View PostArmor9, on 19 October 2010 - 10:13 PM, said: View PostMrVic, on 19 October 2010 - 10:02 PM, said: Armor: first off that was not a date. But some wish to know ballpark time frames. Also I refrain from dates since I know unforeseen problems do come up. Many understand that the times can change and wish to know the estimated time. If you do not want to know these and want patches times and content avoid this thread :) then it will never disappoint you.
The contradiction part is actually a quick update due to an issue that was encountered. So it's actually a rapid update.
The middle statement is funny when you read it. Espically for those with kids I bet ;)
I am more talking about Overlord giving out dates. He has given pretty "firm" dates on 3 occasions for the release of 0.5.5; each one of those dates have been missed. Also, no reason has been given for the missed dates. If the reason is because of bugs in 0.5.5 that doesn't make since. Because you all released 0.5.5 to the Russians on a LIVE server. If there was even a HINT of bugs, shouldn't it have been released to the "beta" testers first to ummm "test"?

MrVic: I am more talking about Overlord giving out dates. He has given pretty "firm" dates on 3 occasions for the release of 0.5.5; each one of those dates have been missed. Also, no reason has been given for the missed dates. If the reason is because of bugs in 0.5.5 that doesn't make since. Because you all released 0.5.5 to the Russians on a LIVE server. If there was even a HINT of bugs, shouldn't it have been released to the "beta" testers first to ummm "test"?
Still stands :) And problems that arise are not "bugs" in the patch but issues that can arise from non software side of things (As no major bugs that I know of are in 5.5 as it is just a couple maps for the most part and a couple value changes, not sure what made you think that). Now we did have a patch long ago that patched RU and the next day was EU. In the end the patch did not have bugs it was bugged as it hard crashed the RU server for a few days. That was a long while back tho, and EU was delayed since it pointless to patch EU and just want the server die so everyone was unable to play. I was happy to keep playing hehe :) As far as I can remember only 18-19 were ever given the rest were estimates, since they try to give the community all the information they can. The others were not firm dates, Many are listed as round X date. Basically you can either flame overlord for giving us estimates or you can ignore all dates given and just act surprised a lot. The only other alternative is the blizzard version. Were tell you nothing for 3 years until were burning the Discs to distribute ;) Personally I like some info even if its estimates or hopes. The ideal of 100% guarantee all the time is near impossible its the aspiration of every company but reality is a cruel thing.

View PostMrVic, on 19 October 2010 - 10:02 PM, said: Armor: first off that was not a date. But some wish to know ballpark time frames. Also I refrain from dates since I know unforeseen problems do come up. Many understand that the times can change and wish to know the estimated time. If you do not want to know these and want patches times and content avoid this thread :) then it will never disappoint you.
The contradiction part is actually a quick update due to an issue that was encountered. So it's actually a rapid update.
The middle statement is funny when you read it. Espically for those with kids I bet ;)

MrVic:


MrVic
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20.10.2010 00:22:27
 
Subject: beta 0.6.1.5 update
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View PostArmor9, on Oct 19 2010 - 21:13, said: View PostMrVic, on Oct 19 2010 - 21:02, said: Armor:  first off that was not a date.  But some wish to know ballpark time frames. Also I refrain from dates since I know unforeseen problems do come up.  Many understand that the times can change and wish to know the estimated time.  If you do not want to know these and want patches times and content avoid this thread :) then it will never disappoint you.

The contradiction part is actually a quick update due to an issue that was encountered. So it's actually a rapid update.

The middle statement is funny when you read it. Espically  for those with kids I bet ;)

I am more talking about Overlord giving out dates.  He has given pretty "firm" dates on 3 occasions for the release of 0.5.5; each one of those dates have been missed.  Also, no reason has been given for the missed dates.  If the reason is because of bugs in 0.5.5 that doesn't make since.  Because you all released 0.5.5 to the Russians on a LIVE server.  If there was even a HINT of bugs, shouldn't it have been released to the "beta" testers first to ummm "test"?


MrVic:
I am more talking about Overlord giving out dates.  He has given pretty "firm" dates on 3 occasions for the release of 0.5.5; each one of those dates have been missed.  Also, no reason has been given for the missed dates.  If the reason is because of bugs in 0.5.5 that doesn't make since.  Because you all released 0.5.5 to the Russians on a LIVE server.  If there was even a HINT of bugs, shouldn't it have been released to the "beta" testers first to ummm "test"?

Still stands :) And problems that arise are not "bugs" in the patch but issues that can arise from non software side of things (As no major bugs that I know of are in 5.5 as it is just a couple maps for the most part and a couple value changes, not sure what made you think that).  Now we did have a patch long ago that patched RU and the next day was EU. In the end the patch did not have bugs it was bugged as it hard crashed the RU server for a few days.  That was a long while back tho, and EU was delayed since it pointless to patch EU and just want the server die so everyone was unable to play. I was happy to keep playing hehe :)   As far as I can remember only 18-19 were ever given the rest were estimates, since they try to give the community all the information they can.  The others were not firm dates, Many are listed as round X date.  Basically you can either flame overlord for giving us estimates or you can ignore all dates given and just act surprised a lot.  The only other alternative is the blizzard version.  Were tell you nothing for 3 years until were burning the Discs to distribute ;)   Personally I like some info even if its estimates or hopes. The ideal of 100% guarantee all the time is near impossible its the aspiration of every company but reality is a cruel thing.

View PostMrVic, on Oct 19 2010 - 21:02, said: Armor:  first off that was not a date.  But some wish to know ballpark time frames. Also I refrain from dates since I know unforeseen problems do come up.  Many understand that the times can change and wish to know the estimated time.  If you do not want to know these and want patches times and content avoid this thread :) then it will never disappoint you.

The contradiction part is actually a quick update due to an issue that was encountered. So it's actually a rapid update.

The middle statement is funny when you read it. Espically  for those with kids I bet ;)


MrVic:


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20.10.2010 00:22:27
 
Subject: beta 0.6.1.5 update
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View PostArmor9, on Oct 19 2010 - 21:13, said: View PostMrVic, on Oct 19 2010 - 21:02, said: Armor:  first off that was not a date.  But some wish to know ballpark time frames. Also I refrain from dates since I know unforeseen problems do come up.  Many understand that the times can change and wish to know the estimated time.  If you do not want to know these and want patches times and content avoid this thread :) then it will never disappoint you.

The contradiction part is actually a quick update due to an issue that was encountered. So it's actually a rapid update.

The middle statement is funny when you read it. Espically  for those with kids I bet ;)

I am more talking about Overlord giving out dates.  He has given pretty "firm" dates on 3 occasions for the release of 0.5.5; each one of those dates have been missed.  Also, no reason has been given for the missed dates.  If the reason is because of bugs in 0.5.5 that doesn't make since.  Because you all released 0.5.5 to the Russians on a LIVE server.  If there was even a HINT of bugs, shouldn't it have been released to the "beta" testers first to ummm "test"?


MrVic:
I am more talking about Overlord giving out dates.  He has given pretty "firm" dates on 3 occasions for the release of 0.5.5; each one of those dates have been missed.  Also, no reason has been given for the missed dates.  If the reason is because of bugs in 0.5.5 that doesn't make since.  Because you all released 0.5.5 to the Russians on a LIVE server.  If there was even a HINT of bugs, shouldn't it have been released to the "beta" testers first to ummm "test"?

Still stands :) And problems that arise are not "bugs" in the patch but issues that can arise from non software side of things (As no major bugs that I know of are in 5.5 as it is just a couple maps for the most part and a couple value changes, not sure what made you think that).  Now we did have a patch long ago that patched RU and the next day was EU. In the end the patch did not have bugs it was bugged as it hard crashed the RU server for a few days.  That was a long while back tho, and EU was delayed since it pointless to patch EU and just want the server die so everyone was unable to play. I was happy to keep playing hehe :)   As far as I can remember only 18-19 were ever given the rest were estimates, since they try to give the community all the information they can.  The others were not firm dates, Many are listed as round X date.  Basically you can either flame overlord for giving us estimates or you can ignore all dates given and just act surprised a lot.  The only other alternative is the blizzard version.  Were tell you nothing for 3 years until were burning the Discs to distribute ;)   Personally I like some info even if its estimates or hopes. The ideal of 100% guarantee all the time is near impossible its the aspiration of every company but reality is a cruel thing.

View PostMrVic, on Oct 19 2010 - 21:02, said: Armor:  first off that was not a date.  But some wish to know ballpark time frames. Also I refrain from dates since I know unforeseen problems do come up.  Many understand that the times can change and wish to know the estimated time.  If you do not want to know these and want patches times and content avoid this thread :) then it will never disappoint you.

The contradiction part is actually a quick update due to an issue that was encountered. So it's actually a rapid update.

The middle statement is funny when you read it. Espically  for those with kids I bet ;)


MrVic:


MrVic
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19.10.2010 23:02:33
 
Subject: Important Information\Updates & Patch Notes\beta 0.6.1.5 update
Link on message: #183524

MrVic: Armor: first off that was not a date. But some wish to know ballpark time frames. Also I refrain from dates since I know unforeseen problems do come up. Many understand that the times can change and wish to know the estimated time. If you do not want to know these and want patches times and content avoid this thread :) then it will never disappoint you.
The contradiction part is actually a quick update due to an issue that was encountered. So it's actually a rapid update.
The middle statement is funny when you read it. Espically for those with kids I bet ;)


MrVic
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19.10.2010 23:02:33
 
Subject: beta 0.6.1.5 update
Link on message: #183524

MrVic: Armor:  first off that was not a date.  But some wish to know ballpark time frames. Also I refrain from dates since I know unforeseen problems do come up.  Many understand that the times can change and wish to know the estimated time.  If you do not want to know these and want patches times and content avoid this thread :) then it will never disappoint you.

The contradiction part is actually a quick update due to an issue that was encountered. So it's actually a rapid update.

The middle statement is funny when you read it. Espically  for those with kids I bet ;)


MrVic
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19.10.2010 23:02:33
 
Subject: beta 0.6.1.5 update
Link on message: #183524

MrVic: Armor:  first off that was not a date.  But some wish to know ballpark time frames. Also I refrain from dates since I know unforeseen problems do come up.  Many understand that the times can change and wish to know the estimated time.  If you do not want to know these and want patches times and content avoid this thread :) then it will never disappoint you.

The contradiction part is actually a quick update due to an issue that was encountered. So it's actually a rapid update.

The middle statement is funny when you read it. Espically  for those with kids I bet ;)


MrVic
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19.10.2010 22:30:55
 
Subject: Important Information\Updates & Patch Notes\beta 0.6.1.5 update
Link on message: #183493

View PostKazomir, on 19 October 2010 - 09:16 PM, said: I could care less for this update, i dont know why you are so inpatient...almolst nothing will change...
American tanks on a side note, are that i am waiting for. and if the delay of this patch means that yanks tanks are comin faster, im all thumbs up for this.
+19th october isnt over yet.

MrVic: Actually you have a good point depending when the patch starts, missing the deadline could be a few hours late in total technically. Kinda humorus really


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19.10.2010 22:30:55
 
Subject: beta 0.6.1.5 update
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View PostKazomir, on Oct 19 2010 - 20:16, said: I could care less for this update, i dont know why you are so inpatient...almolst nothing will change...
American tanks on a side note, are that i am waiting for. and if the delay of this patch means that yanks tanks are comin faster, im all thumbs up for this.
+19th october isnt over yet.


MrVic:
Actually you have a good point depending when the patch starts, missing the deadline could be a few hours late in total technically.  Kinda humorus really


MrVic
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19.10.2010 22:30:55
 
Subject: beta 0.6.1.5 update
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View PostKazomir, on Oct 19 2010 - 20:16, said: I could care less for this update, i dont know why you are so inpatient...almolst nothing will change...
American tanks on a side note, are that i am waiting for. and if the delay of this patch means that yanks tanks are comin faster, im all thumbs up for this.
+19th october isnt over yet.


MrVic:
Actually you have a good point depending when the patch starts, missing the deadline could be a few hours late in total technically.  Kinda humorus really


MrVic
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19.10.2010 22:27:54
 
Subject: Important Information\Updates & Patch Notes\beta 0.6.1.5 update
Link on message: #183488

View Postberree, on 19 October 2010 - 08:26 PM, said: Are U.S tanks still on track to be released "sometime" in November?

MrVic: Not sure I want to answer this anymore... But I'll give the idea of any info is better then none ;) November looks good


MrVic
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19.10.2010 22:27:54
 
Subject: beta 0.6.1.5 update
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View Postberree, on Oct 19 2010 - 19:26, said: Are U.S tanks still on track to be released "sometime" in November?


MrVic: Not sure I want to answer this anymore...  But I'll give the idea of any info is better then none ;) November looks good


MrVic
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19.10.2010 22:27:54
 
Subject: beta 0.6.1.5 update
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View Postberree, on Oct 19 2010 - 19:26, said: Are U.S tanks still on track to be released "sometime" in November?


MrVic: Not sure I want to answer this anymore...  But I'll give the idea of any info is better then none ;) November looks good


MrVic
State of the Beta Post (Updated 20/09/10)
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19.10.2010 20:29:48
 
Subject: Archives\Junkyard\State of the Beta Post (Updated 20/09/10)
Link on message: #183344

View PostPongo, on 18 October 2010 - 10:50 PM, said: Thanks Mods,
Is the ridge alone the east edge of the Monestary map (intended to be) navigable?
Love the looks of the new maps.

MrVic: Basically there is a road along that deep chasm. The steep ridge on the far east is not drivable. It's one of those things that's hard to get a feel for top down. That map has numerous avenues to attack from. Also it's amazingly scenic


MrVic
State of the Beta Post (Updated 20/09/10)
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19.10.2010 20:21:18
 
Subject: Archives\Junkyard\State of the Beta Post (Updated 20/09/10)
Link on message: #183324

View Postkarl_eller, on 19 October 2010 - 01:06 PM, said: View PostMrVic, on 18 October 2010 - 01:19 AM, said:
Is it possible to cross the river in the top right corner of this map? Or is there only 2 ways across? From the road, it kind of looks like there might be a ford there, but it's kinda hard to tell.

MrVic: Is it possible to cross the river in the top right corner of this map? Or is there only 2 ways across? From the road, it kind of looks like there might be a ford there, but it's kinda hard to tell.
There are 3 :) this map is going be interesting how it plays out.

View PostMrVic, on 18 October 2010 - 01:19 AM, said:

MrVic:


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19.10.2010 20:12:34
 
Subject: Important Information\Updates & Patch Notes\beta 0.6.1.5 update
Link on message: #183308

View PostVernah, on 19 October 2010 - 06:23 PM, said: So if the 6.13 patch is being finalized, why don't we just test the 6.13 patch? If the russians have already played 5.5, what's the use of us testing it if the fixes for that patch are already done?

MrVic: 6.1.3. From what I know is part of the internal testing. Basicaly it's a small part of .6/.7. This sort of patching is to watch the internal client go boom as they piece together the patch for us. While we were delayed on 5.5 for a few reasons, the work on .6 has not really been put on hold it's still going on. So the info about the devs working on 6.1.3 is actually good news, since it's one piece of the puzzle for the big patch that hopefully does not crash the server ect. Over all were not in bad shape considering the next 2-3 patches massive amount of content. I think the big trick is shuffling multiple client patches in a day. Down the road things improve. Really I am surprised they gave out that info as most would not give any reason.
Testing 5.5 is as I talked about pages ago. Is some tank tweaks from bugs and 2 maps the tweaks are not really large content or game breaking so testing those is kind of mute. The 2 maps are in good shape, and map testing is a never ending process. Most of it is done through long term data collection. So EU testing for months prior to RU is really a waste. 5.5 is not really a "test this it needs it" it was an attempt by the devs to pull a few things out and give us some new maps to hold us over until .6 was made stable. It was a nice gesture that we have thrown in their face. It sucks to wait but we'll have them soon enough.
For me if a delay on 5.5 meant we see .6 faster then it's worth it in spades. From what I know I suspect that might have been some of the reasons


MrVic
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19.10.2010 20:12:34
 
Subject: beta 0.6.1.5 update
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View PostVernah, on Oct 19 2010 - 17:23, said: So if the 6.13 patch is being finalized, why don't we just test the 6.13 patch? If the russians have already played 5.5, what's the use of us testing it if the fixes for that patch are already done?


MrVic:
6.1.3.  From what I know is part of the internal testing.  Basicaly it's a small part of .6/.7. This sort of patching is to watch the internal client go boom as they piece together the patch for us.  While we were delayed on 5.5 for a few reasons, the work on .6 has not really been put on hold it's still going on.  So the info about the devs working on 6.1.3 is actually good news, since it's one piece of the puzzle for the big patch that hopefully does not crash the server ect.  Over all were not in bad shape considering the next 2-3 patches massive amount of content.  I think the big trick is shuffling multiple client patches in a day.  Down the road things improve. Really I am surprised they gave out that info as most would not give any reason.  

Testing 5.5 is as I talked about pages ago. Is some tank tweaks from bugs and 2 maps the tweaks are not really large content or game breaking so testing those is kind of mute. The 2  maps are in good shape, and map testing is a never ending process. Most of it is done through long term data collection.  So EU testing for months prior to RU is really a waste. 5.5 is not really a "test this it needs it" it was an attempt by the devs to pull a few things out and give us some new maps to hold us over until .6 was made stable.  It was a nice gesture that we have thrown in their face.  It sucks to wait but we'll have them soon enough.

For me if a delay on 5.5 meant we see .6 faster then it's worth it in spades. From what I know I suspect that might have been some of the reasons


MrVic
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19.10.2010 20:12:34
 
Subject: beta 0.6.1.5 update
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View PostVernah, on Oct 19 2010 - 17:23, said: So if the 6.13 patch is being finalized, why don't we just test the 6.13 patch? If the russians have already played 5.5, what's the use of us testing it if the fixes for that patch are already done?


MrVic:
6.1.3.  From what I know is part of the internal testing.  Basicaly it's a small part of .6/.7. This sort of patching is to watch the internal client go boom as they piece together the patch for us.  While we were delayed on 5.5 for a few reasons, the work on .6 has not really been put on hold it's still going on.  So the info about the devs working on 6.1.3 is actually good news, since it's one piece of the puzzle for the big patch that hopefully does not crash the server ect.  Over all were not in bad shape considering the next 2-3 patches massive amount of content.  I think the big trick is shuffling multiple client patches in a day.  Down the road things improve. Really I am surprised they gave out that info as most would not give any reason.  

Testing 5.5 is as I talked about pages ago. Is some tank tweaks from bugs and 2 maps the tweaks are not really large content or game breaking so testing those is kind of mute. The 2  maps are in good shape, and map testing is a never ending process. Most of it is done through long term data collection.  So EU testing for months prior to RU is really a waste. 5.5 is not really a "test this it needs it" it was an attempt by the devs to pull a few things out and give us some new maps to hold us over until .6 was made stable.  It was a nice gesture that we have thrown in their face.  It sucks to wait but we'll have them soon enough.

For me if a delay on 5.5 meant we see .6 faster then it's worth it in spades. From what I know I suspect that might have been some of the reasons


Overlord
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19.10.2010 18:55:11
 
Subject: beta 0.6.1.5 update
Link on message: #183190

View PostNeverwhere, on Oct 19 2010 - 16:52, said: Any chance for adding Panther 2 in patch 0.6??


Overlord:
No, in terms of new vehicles it will bring only US tech-tree.


MrVic
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19.10.2010 18:38:21
 
Subject: Important Information\Updates & Patch Notes\beta 0.6.1.5 update
Link on message: #183155

Asky said: And u think that is a well made beta test? Giving examples of other bad made beta tests doesn't motivate u guys for not keeping you're promise. So far Wargaming.net did a very good game, they have a pretty good communication with the community and that's why we expect to keep u're promise...

MrVic: A well made beta does not exsist, due to perfect world ideas people have. For you everything fast and on time with no delays equals well made I am guessing. Seeing as Released games cannot make that happen, holding such an ideal to a beta is destined to be flawed. Beta is debugging stress testing for players but at the same time it is a beta for the devs. They are bug testing patching methods and encouraging situations that delay the game patches, they find issues in sever stability on their side a work to eliminate those. While they work to make thing better and improve their methods we work to find problems in their game.
The examples were to point out there has never been a perfect beta by what your standards seem to be. Moments in a beta are good others suck, such is how it really works
Ps. I do not have any more control on getting a patch out then you. I just try and provide help and information where I can :)


MrVic
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19.10.2010 18:38:21
 
Subject: beta 0.6.1.5 update
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Asky said:

And u think that is a well made beta test? Giving  examples of other bad made beta tests doesn't motivate u guys for not keeping you're promise. So far Wargaming.net did a very good game, they have a pretty good communication with the community and that's why we expect to keep u're promise...



MrVic:
A well made beta does not exsist, due to perfect world ideas people have.  For you everything fast and on time with no delays equals well made I am guessing.  Seeing as   Released games cannot make that happen, holding such an ideal to a beta is destined to be flawed. Beta is debugging stress testing for players but at the same time it is a beta for the devs. They are bug testing patching methods and encouraging situations that delay the game patches, they find issues in sever stability on their side a work to eliminate those.  While they work to make thing better and improve their methods we work to find problems  in their game.

The examples were to point out there has never been a  perfect beta by what your standards seem to be.  Moments in a beta are good others suck, such is how it really works

Ps. I do not have any more control on getting a patch out then you. I just try and provide help and information where I can :)


MrVic
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19.10.2010 18:38:21
 
Subject: beta 0.6.1.5 update
Link on message: #183155

Asky said:

And u think that is a well made beta test? Giving  examples of other bad made beta tests doesn't motivate u guys for not keeping you're promise. So far Wargaming.net did a very good game, they have a pretty good communication with the community and that's why we expect to keep u're promise...



MrVic:
A well made beta does not exsist, due to perfect world ideas people have.  For you everything fast and on time with no delays equals well made I am guessing.  Seeing as   Released games cannot make that happen, holding such an ideal to a beta is destined to be flawed. Beta is debugging stress testing for players but at the same time it is a beta for the devs. They are bug testing patching methods and encouraging situations that delay the game patches, they find issues in sever stability on their side a work to eliminate those.  While they work to make thing better and improve their methods we work to find problems  in their game.

The examples were to point out there has never been a  perfect beta by what your standards seem to be.  Moments in a beta are good others suck, such is how it really works

Ps. I do not have any more control on getting a patch out then you. I just try and provide help and information where I can :)


Overlord
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19.10.2010 18:34:58
 
Subject: beta 0.6.1.5 update
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View PostLtChief, on Oct 19 2010 - 16:20, said:
It was stated by Overlord earlier in this thread that there would be simultaneous releases of patches here and in Russia and that they had a system to convert the patches so that wouldnt be a problem.


Overlord:
It is still a long way to go to release updates simultaneously, but that's our objective.

The gap between updating both versions to 0.6.x is supposed to be smaller.


MrVic
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19.10.2010 17:29:28
 
Subject: Important Information\Updates & Patch Notes\beta 0.6.1.5 update
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MrVic: Delays happen. Many betas there is little to no warning when patches are coming half the time. The dev team is posting patch notes way before the patches are out, honestly I have not seen that in a beta before. So far for myself they have gone above and beyond with information that most companies never give out. Patch notes before patches. They are actually telling us why it was delayed, heck most games never tell you that much. During betas you sit in the dark and if your pre warned of a patch and its delayed they never say why in most cases.
It arrives when it arrives and thank the dev staff for the volume of information they share.
Getting worked up over something that is moving this fast to get us tons and I mean tons of new content and toys is just silly. I remember ib swg testing the server would go offline for 4 days no warning and no information wden it would be back online. You just checked on it once in awhile and played when it was up. I think many confuse this beta as release. Due to stability and patch info. I guess holding back information would be better? If you had no idea of .6 or .7 patch schedule and content would it cause people to complain less since they would see it as a gift instead of their right?
Sometimes it makes you wonder if their effort to keep us overly informed causes them more work. Keep making the game better many are willing to play an even better game :)


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19.10.2010 17:29:28
 
Subject: beta 0.6.1.5 update
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MrVic: Delays happen.  Many betas there is little to no warning when patches are coming half the time.  The dev team is posting patch notes way before the patches are out, honestly I have not seen that in a beta before.  So far for myself they have gone above and beyond with information that most companies never give out.  Patch notes before patches.  They are actually telling us why it was delayed, heck most games never tell you that much. During betas you sit in the dark and if your pre warned of a patch and its delayed they never say why in most cases.

It arrives when it arrives and thank the dev staff for the volume of information they share.
Getting worked up over something that is moving this fast to get us tons and I mean tons of new content and toys is just silly.  I remember ib swg testing the server would go offline for 4 days no warning and no information wden it would be back online. You just checked on it once in awhile and played when it was up.   I think many confuse this beta as release. Due to stability and patch info.  I guess holding back information would be better? If you had no idea of .6 or .7 patch schedule and content would it cause people to complain less since they would see it as a gift instead of their right?

Sometimes it makes you wonder if their effort to keep us overly informed causes them more work.    Keep making the game better many are willing to play an even better game :)


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19.10.2010 17:29:28
 
Subject: beta 0.6.1.5 update
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MrVic: Delays happen.  Many betas there is little to no warning when patches are coming half the time.  The dev team is posting patch notes way before the patches are out, honestly I have not seen that in a beta before.  So far for myself they have gone above and beyond with information that most companies never give out.  Patch notes before patches.  They are actually telling us why it was delayed, heck most games never tell you that much. During betas you sit in the dark and if your pre warned of a patch and its delayed they never say why in most cases.

It arrives when it arrives and thank the dev staff for the volume of information they share.
Getting worked up over something that is moving this fast to get us tons and I mean tons of new content and toys is just silly.  I remember ib swg testing the server would go offline for 4 days no warning and no information wden it would be back online. You just checked on it once in awhile and played when it was up.   I think many confuse this beta as release. Due to stability and patch info.  I guess holding back information would be better? If you had no idea of .6 or .7 patch schedule and content would it cause people to complain less since they would see it as a gift instead of their right?

Sometimes it makes you wonder if their effort to keep us overly informed causes them more work.    Keep making the game better many are willing to play an even better game :)


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19.10.2010 15:51:01
 
Subject: beta 0.6.1.5 update
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View Postviborabr, on Oct 19 2010 - 13:42, said: A message to the fan boys, this is a business and it must be ruled like it.
This is a test for the go live, it is still free but it wont in short future, they will have schedules to accomplish with customers.
They are going pretty bad on this live test right now, it was not the first delay, this is a sequence of delays.
We can't be impolite with the developers or aggressive, but we are here to demand quality and goals being accomplished.
If you, fan boys, that thinks that the best for the game is just keep saying: "OK, the game is perfect, nothing needs to improve, delays are normal, keep going..."
You are wrong, we are beta testers, potential customers, we are here to push (on a reasonable way) quality and help them to improve.
So stop thinking you are being good when you are so permissive, but also, don't think you are being good when you are being aggressive.

Overlord: Yes, it is business. But at the same time beta test is a kind of training period for the company.
Constructive criticism is always welcome here, pure aggression from users wouldn't add much to the game development, we have enough of it on the Russian forums.


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19.10.2010 15:39:01
 
Subject: beta 0.6.1.5 update
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View Postyodamester, on Oct 19 2010 - 13:30, said: So tomorrow which patch will we get 0.5.5 or 0.6.1.3?

Overlord: 0.5.5

View PostSchneider, on Oct 19 2010 - 13:31, said: strange i had some beta where there was No delay (at least not the announced but we will see :)
Atleast you heve the guts to stand foreward  :Smile_honoring:
:Smile_honoring:

Overlord: I'm not claiming that everybody postpones updates. Each company has its own strategy and methods of work.
Beta is no shield for us, but at release we will follow the schedule more thoroughly.


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19.10.2010 15:29:46
 
Subject: beta 0.6.1.5 update
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View PostSchneider, on Oct 19 2010 - 13:21, said: Soryy but but i agree with Misanthrops  100 % correct .
When you can't keep writen promises you better stop your job and quit.
This is very "good" Pr and advertising and i am shure i will  tell my folks about it .
Next time shutting up and writing nothing is always better than selling a bear before you shot it .
But still : it is now 14:17 so you still have 8 hours  :Smile-izmena:
Ps i don' mean WOT hours. Real hours if can handle real time notifications.
And yes i am AGAIN very dissappointed in this game.
no salute this time
And again our russian friends have the favours  what a coincidanse <_<

Overlord: So you suggest we close the project and quit after that? At least you are not going to burn us at the stake.
Delay is usual practice in video game industry. And at the moment it is 1-day delay.


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19.10.2010 14:45:19
 
Subject: beta 0.6.1.5 update
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Overlord: Planned 0.5.5 update has been rescheduled for tomorrow due to finalization of 0.6.1.3 test patch.


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19.10.2010 13:27:54
 
Subject: beta 0.6.1.5 update
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View Postvarrakk, on Oct 19 2010 - 10:37, said: Weight is a pretty bad term to be using, Networth would be more accurate.



Overlord:
"Networth" reminds me of economics or finance. Perhaps, value.


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19.10.2010 12:10:17
 
Subject: beta 0.6.1.5 update
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View PostEliminateur, on Oct 18 2010 - 21:46, said: overlord, any ideas what will happen to the current owners of the M3 Stuart "premium" tank when the US tank tree goes live(including the stuart in the regular light tree)?
will it be deleted?, refunded?, converted to elite tank?, converted to basic tank?, what about crew?


Overlord:
Nothing is going to happen to "premium" M3 Stuart (tho it's not premium). It will stay as it is. Until wipe at least.


View PostZeshin, on Oct 19 2010 - 09:44, said: Will platoons be included in this?
Platoons are currently (seemingly) excluded from the matchmaking system. Whenever we play with a platoon of three light tanks (tier 1-3), we always end up in a battle with a bunch of other platoons of tier 6+...


Overlord:
Overall platoon "weight" is going to be decreased. Platoons will be "weighed" lower than they are now.


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18.10.2010 23:11:23
 
Subject: beta 0.6.1.5 update
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View PostMemoryReborn, on Oct 18 2010 - 21:02, said:
Any info on that you can share with us?


Overlord:
It's a draft version that is being tested at the moment.

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18.10.2010 22:55:53
 
Subject: beta 0.6.1.5 update
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View PostArmorShark7, on Oct 18 2010 - 18:58, said: So, US tanks are supposed to be inexpensive to purchase and repair?

Overlord, since there's already been some form of testing of the US tanks, can you confirm/refute this?
:blink:


Overlord:
Overall US tanks' costs won't differ greatly from German and Soviet vehicles.


View PosteLdritchZ, on Oct 18 2010 - 20:41, said: am i seeing this right that the changes to the matchmaking system dropped out of this update?



Overlord:
There will be changes in match-making. We are switching to new system comprising 8 battle tiers. This one proved to be not effective.
Equipped modules are going to have less weight.


View PostFrankK2, on Oct 18 2010 - 20:44, said: M3 Grant, would be lovely to use them both. Of course not at the same time.  Aswell the MAUS could use the 75mm attached next to the big gun.


Overlord:
Secondary guns are going be enabled later. For some time only the primary one will be active.


ARGO
The "why didn't that hit them" topic
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18.10.2010 22:16:54
 
Subject: Archives\Beta\The "why didn't that hit them" topic
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View Postbloodwork, on 18 October 2010 - 08:52 PM, said: Another problem occured (besides lag among other things). I have noticed today that i have enemy tanks on sight, even from close range, and the shot is a miss. I mean, it finds the target and is a miss, not a bounce, it's like the shell passes through the tank and hits the ground. I played many games today before i post and it's always the same thing, many unexplained misses. I was wondering if other players experienced the same, at least one guy agreed with me in game.

ARGO: By any chance are you using the German 88mm? because I have heard the same complaint from a lot of players who have the 88mm. I too have the same issue where you can be point blank, hit the trigger and the gun jumps over the target and fires. I have noted which guns I have that do it but it seams the 88mm is most plagued by this. I mean seriously, I your close enough to spit in the other tank jockeys face then how the heck can you miss?
BL9 russian "Jumps over target and fires, misses at point blank range"
10.5 conicle German "No accuracy at all, jumps all over the place"
88.mm German "Jumps over target and fires, misses at point blank range. Has also had delayed fire"


Overlord
Maintenance Works Scheduled on October 19
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18.10.2010 22:08:29
 
Subject: Maintenance Works Scheduled on October 19
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View PostHavoc77, on Oct 18 2010 - 17:00, said: what's with all the maintenance on forum?? is the forum getting a bug or virus, is it sick?

Overlord: It's server maintenance. forum.worldoftanks.com and game.worldoftanks.com are located on the servers from Russian cluster. And this cluster is going to be expanded.
That's why the site and forum may be unavailable for some time.


ARGO
WOT offline?
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18.10.2010 20:51:08
 
Subject: Archives\Beta\WOT offline?
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ARGO: I wonder if it is connected anyway with what happend yesterday. Every second time you go into battle the game went in, started countdown, then dropped you back into the garage with some message regarding creation errors.


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18.10.2010 20:18:00
 
Subject: Important Information\Updates & Patch Notes\beta 0.6.1.5 update
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View Postsonic9982, on 18 October 2010 - 07:07 PM, said: @overlord: so we still have to wait a little bit for 0.6... can you tell us at least one or the other data sheet of the us-tanks? :) pleeeeaaaaasssseeeee! :)
and yeah - we know that the data sheet can still change... so please give us a little insight! :)

MrVic: What kind of data sheet are you asking about? Cost ect?


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18.10.2010 20:18:00
 
Subject: beta 0.6.1.5 update
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View Postsonic9982, on Oct 18 2010 - 18:07, said: @overlord: so we still have to wait a little bit for 0.6... can you tell us at least one or the other data sheet of the us-tanks? :) pleeeeaaaaasssseeeee! :)

and yeah - we know that the data sheet can still change... so please give us a little insight! :)


MrVic: What kind of data sheet are you asking about?  Cost ect?


MrVic
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18.10.2010 20:18:00
 
Subject: beta 0.6.1.5 update
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View Postsonic9982, on Oct 18 2010 - 18:07, said: @overlord: so we still have to wait a little bit for 0.6... can you tell us at least one or the other data sheet of the us-tanks? :) pleeeeaaaaasssseeeee! :)

and yeah - we know that the data sheet can still change... so please give us a little insight! :)


MrVic: What kind of data sheet are you asking about?  Cost ect?


MrVic
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18.10.2010 20:03:10
 
Subject: Important Information\Updates & Patch Notes\beta 0.6.1.5 update
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MrVic: US tank designations will take some getting used to for many. The problem lies in The way US equipment wether it be a shovel or a tank was organized and designated. Their system of classifications at that period of time was a mess. Combined with the sheer volume of weapons proposed, designed, prototyped, and produced. In volume no one looked at more options of equipment then the US. Much of which was never taken past design and trials stages. Even worse was the volume of proposals by small companies or private citizens that designed or even prototyped equipment much of these never made it far enough into approval for them to be well documented by the army or govt.
The US typically kept their focus on production and primarily only made changes when they did not interrupt the main production rates of m4's ect. This was due to supplying tanks and parts to many nations. While they had prototypes and trials on many superior tanks to the M4 most never went into main line production. Due to the leading cause of tank loss was maintenance in many cases, by mass producing similar tanks or using similar parts they were able to quickly repair or easily maintain the tanks that were currently fighting.
I have collected for a long time all the information on US tank designs in WW2 let me tell you it's a fast way to get confused and get a headache. :) One of my favorite weapons designed and put through basic testing was a private design for a 75mm caseless rolling lock gun breach. Which enabled high speed reloads and highly protected ammo storage.
The system was passed over for logistics reasons early in it's assessment so it never received a design designation, but it did have a few obscure patents. Things like this are near impossible to track down much info on today.
In the end we'll learn them was we drive them but its histories fault in the end hehe


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