M4 Sherman "The Right Tank for the Wrong War"
Дата: 12.09.2017 08:53:57
Ikanator, on Sep 11 2017 - 19:40, said: Well, it couldn't have been WWI. Advances in tank design and
construction after WWII limited its later use. And regardless of
whatever you might think of its tactical limitations there was an
extent to which the logistics factors that effectively put limits
on its weight and size overrode other considerations. As the
Germans found out to their dismay what were arguably the best tanks
in the world at that time were pretty much useless if you couldn't
get enough of them to where the battles were being fought.
Also, if I understand things correctly, there was a problem with
our doctrine. Tanks were not seen initially as primary anti-tank
platforms. That role was to be filled by anti-tank guns and
dedicated tank destroyer formations using specialty vehicles. Tanks
were to be used for infantry support, and more importantly making
and exploiting breakthroughs in weak sections of an enemy line. The
Germans did not have such doctrinal hang ups and did not have to
worry about making their tanks small and light enough to be easily
shipped on freighters and railroad cars to get where they were
going. So it is not too surprising that they could get tanks that
were better one on one in an anti-tank role than an M4 was.
When all is said and done at the end of the day it comes down to
the saying that I have heard attributed variously to either Lenin
or Stalin. "Quantity has a quality all its own". The problem is
that if you're relying on the quantity side of that divide then you
have to be willing and able to take some serious lumps if
necessary. We did so. We produced overwhelming numbers of M4s
compared to what the Germans could produce of their designs and we
were able to get them where we needed them and keep them supplied.
The Germans' quality advantage was not sufficient to overcome that
and so while they were able to "win" various tank vs tank
engagements, they also lost more tanks than they could afford to
and thus the war as a whole. Could we have produced a
heavier tank? We had the Pershing, we just did not have it in large
numbers. The Pershing based on what I have heard was able to fill
the tank vs tank role pretty well. Then the question becomes, if we
had attempted to seriously mass produce the Pershing instead of the
M4, could we have gotten enough of them where we needed them to
actually get the job done that needed to be done? That's the
question that I can't answer. I don't know the extent to which
logistical considerations would have limited the Pershing's ability
to be shipped in large enough numbers to have been the primary tank
that we used. But I would be willing to bet a cold beer that given
what I have heard about problems with shipping controlling the
design of the M4 we might not have been able to get enough
Pershings into the European theater fast enough to have made the
Normandy breakout if not even the landings themselves possible.
The_Chieftain: You don't need to risk your cold beer. I have written fairly
extensively on the subject (as well as spoken), and there is no way
that Pershing could have shown in numbers which would have been
relevant to the war.
M4 Sherman "The Right Tank for the Wrong War"