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MrDonnie
Concursos del mes de Wargaming Universe#1: TELETRANSPORTE - (2 al 5 de enero)
20.02.2014 13:30:51
Subject: Concursos del mes de Wargaming Universe#1: TELETRANSPORTE - (2 al 5 de enero)
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MrDonnie
Concursos del mes de Wargaming Universe#1: TELETRANSPORTE - (2 al 5 de enero)
20.02.2014 13:30:20
Subject: Concursos del mes de Wargaming Universe#1: TELETRANSPORTE - (2 al 5 de enero)
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MrDonnie: Aquí tenéis los resultados del concurso: 200 puntos
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Subject: Anyone need a loan?
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AltTab, on 20 February 2014 - 12:15 PM, said: Love that scene! The face he pulls right at the end of the gif is perfect
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AltTab, on 20 February 2014 - 12:15 PM, said: Love that scene! The face he pulls right at the end of the gif is perfect
IPaul72: Me too he is one funny fella
Subject: Kalendář na únor 2014
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JohnDal, on 20 February 2014 - 07:30 AM, said: Kdy bude dostupný kalendář na březen? Neplánuje se akce na KV-4?
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JohnDal, on 20 February 2014 - 07:30 AM, said: Kdy bude dostupný kalendář na březen? Neplánuje se akce na KV-4?
Karlie: Obvykle koncem února (rozuměj kolem 28.2.). Co se plánuje za
akce se předem nesděluje ;).
Subject: Historical Ammunition Loadouts
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Tuccy: Generally HVAP = APCR. Overall, British and German designations
concentrated on material ("Hartkern", "APCR"); US on velocity
(HVAP) and Soviets on caliber (Subcaliber) to describe the same
thing
Subject: Historical Ammunition Loadouts
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Hunter1911: Awesome work Tuccy! Easy to read and quite hand to know. Love
the bit on Yugoslavian vehicles.
Subject: Historical Ammunition Loadouts
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TheKroo: Awesome work Tuccy! Easy to read and quite hand to know. Love
the bit on Yugoslavian vehicles.
Subject: Anyone need a loan?
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deveen23, on 20 February 2014 - 10:28 AM, said: Have no idea what to do with this, open to any suggestions...
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deveen23, on 20 February 2014 - 10:28 AM, said: Have no idea what to do with this, open to any suggestions...
IPaul72: So much money ....
Subject: Historical Ammunition Loadouts
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Tuccy: A collection of data from various sources that will be probably
interesting foer all of us who dab into the history sometimes.
Ammunition loadouts for tanks that we have in game or that are
similar (or which can, at least, serve as point of interest). NOTE:
Some configurations cannot be used in game, obviously ;)
Special thanks to bojan for his data on Yugoslavian loadouts and
for directing me to some interesting Russian literature.
Czechoslovakia
Lt vz. 35 (aka PzKpfw 35(t)) (3,7cm UV vz.34)
54 HE-Frag, 24 AP
Note:Did not find standard loadouts for vehicles in Wehrmacht service. After intorduction of loader it was necessary to remove one ammo bin, reducing the total loadout to 72. It can be expected that in German service, the usual loadout was similar to German standards: 50:50. Between 1940-1941 APCR shots may have been carried, if so, then probably one bin / 6 rounds.
LT vz.38 (AKA PzKpfe 38t) (3,7cm UV vz.38)
60 HE-Frag, 30 AP Note:Did not find standard loadouts for vehicles in Wehrmacht service. After intorduction of loader it was necessary to remove several ammo bins, reducing the total loadout to 72. It can be expected that in German service, the usual loadout was similar to German standards: 50:50. Between 1940-1941 APCR shots may have been carried, if so, then probably one bin / 6 rounds.
Yugoslavia
Post-war ammunittion loadouts for T-34/85, M4A3E4 Sherman, M47 Patton, T-54A and more
M4A3E4 Sherman (76mm M1A1C/M1A2) 1950s: 31 HE; 30 AP; 10 HVAP 1950s-1960s: 31 HE; 20 AP; 20 HVAP 1960s: 46 HE; 10 AP; 15 HVAP
Note.: M4A3E4 was M4A3(75)W rebuilt as part of MAP by mounting a 76mm gun. Ammunition loadout was the same as with M4 (76)W.
in 1960s tanks were shifted to support roels because of wear and tear and weak and non-standard guns.
T-34/85 (85mm ZIS-S-53) 1950s: 23 HE; 24 AP; 8 HVAP 1950s-1960s: 23 HE; 20 AP; 12 HVAP 1960s: 23 HE; 12 AP; 8 HVAP; 12 HEAT 1975: 23 HE; 8 AP; 8 HVAP; 16 HEAT
Note.: T-34/85 remained longer in the "1st line" role for several reasons, one of them being the HEAT ammunition. M47 Patton (90mm M36) 1950s: 26 HE; 25 AP; 10 HVAP; 10 HEAT 1950s-1960s: 26 HE; 20 AP; 15 HVAP; 10 HEAT 1960s: 26 HE; 10 AP; 15 HVAP; 20 HEAT 1974: 26 HE; 5 AP; 10 HVAP; 30 HEAT 1974 modernised: 35 HE; 5 AP; 10 HVAP; 40 HEAT
Infantry support: 1960s: 41 HE;5 AP; 10 HVAP; 15 HEAT 1974: 41 HE; 5 AP; 25 HEAT 1974 modernised: 60 HE; 10 AP; 30 HEAT
Note.: Modernised M47 lost one crewman - assistant driver/gunner - and gained space for additional 29 rounds of ammunition. According to Yugoslavian tests US HEAT shells had issues with proper initiation at high impact angles.
T-54 (100mm D-10T)
1960s: 14 HE; 12 AP; 8 HEAT
1970s: 14 HE; 8 AP; 12 HEAT
1970s: 20 HE; 6 AP; 8 HEAT
Note.: 2nd variant for 1970s is infantry support loadout
T-55 (100mm D-10T)
1960s: 17 HE; 16 AP; 10 HEAT
1970s: 16 HE; 12 AP; 15 HEAT
1970s: 26 HE; 8 AP; 9 HEAT
Note.: 2nd variant for 1970s is infantry support loadout
PT-76 (76mm D-56TM)
20 HE; 4 AP; 4 HVAP; 12 HEAT
T-72 (125mm D-81T 2A46)
14 HE; 15 APFSDS; 10 HEAT
27 HE; 6 APFSDS; 6 HEAT
Note: Not in game ;)
T-72M (125mm D-81T 2A46)
17 HE; 15 APFSDS; 12 HEAT
32 HE; 6 APFSDS; 6 HEAT
Note: Not in game ;)
M-84 (125mm D-81T 2A46)
15 HE; 15 APFSDS; 12 HEAT
30 HE; 6 APFSDS; 6 HEAT
Note: Not in game ;)
Germany
General rule for HE:AP ratio was 50:50,. The notable exception were weapons with low muzzle velocity, designed for infantry support (7.5cm KwK L/24; 10.5cm StuH) - there amount of AP/HEAT was usually between 25-33%. APCR ammunition was rare, used only for some guns and generally distributed only when enemy heavy tanks were expected. One of the exceptions were 37mm and 50mm guns. APCR for 88mm L/71 was not distributed at all. HEAT ammunition often replaced HE instead of AP, especially in high velocity guns. USSR General rule, once the HVAP rounds became available, was 4 HVAP rounds for tanks and 8 for antitank guns/SP guns. However in practice troops tended to hoard HVAP from disabled tanks.
Heavy tanks
Churchill III (6pdr 57mm MkIII) 41 Frag, 40 AP
Note: Fragmentation rounds were made by mating Soviet O-271 57mm shells to British cases. This was mostly because British did not supply HE ammunition for 6 pounder guns. Total ammunition loadout was supposed to be 84 projectiles, as shown here they were split roughly 50:50. In practice, though, loadouts of 130-150 rounds were not unusual.
KV-1 vz.1942/KV-1S (76mm ZIS-5)
Sources differ here, for example comparison with Churchill III states following loadout that gives only 90 rounds (instead of 114): 68 HE, 22 AP. However there are also more detailed loadouts: 1943: 86 HE, 28 AP. April 1943: 86 HE; 24 AP, 4 HVAP December 1943: 74 HE, 5 shrapnel, 20 AP, 15 HVAP May 1944: 74 HE, 10 shrapnel, 30 AP
Note: Changing priorities are clearly visible here, especially the late 1943 amount of HVAP projectiles to counter heavier German vehicles - it is far above the standard load of 4 HVAP per tank, so it could be based on actual battlefield practice (hoarding HVAP from destroyed vehicles).
KV-85 (85mm D-5T)
46 Frag, 20 AP, 4 HVAP
Note: 85mm gun was considered as not too suitable for heavy tanks. During WWII, USSR did not produce much (if any) HE-Frag shells for this gun, instead AA fragmentation rounds had to be used. Their effect on field fortifications and other hardened targets was rather underwhelming. IS-85/IS-1 (85mm D-5T)
39 Frag, 16 AP, 4 HVAP 47 Frag, 12 AP
Note: Second variant is infantry support when encountering heavier enemy tanks was not anticipated.
IS-122/IS-2/IS-3 (122mm D-2-5T; 122mm D-25T)
18 HE, 10 AP 20 HE, 8 AP Post-war: 17 HE, 11 AP
Note: Second variant was rather usual, as He projectiles were usually enough even for most armored targets. 8 AP projectiles was a "hardware limit" - at least in IS-3, 8 projectile holders could not physically fir the longer HE-Frag projectiles. During big operations, tanks were often overloaded with ammunition.
T-10 (122mm D-25T)
15 HE; 15 AP
T-10M (122mm M-62T)
15 HE; 6 APDS; 9 HEAT
Note: In game 15xHE, 9xAP, 6x HEAT
Medium Tanks
T-34/76 (76mm L11; 76mm F-34) 1941: 57 HE and shrapnel; 20 AP 1943: 65 HE, 10 shrapnel; 25 AP léto 1943: 65 HE, 10 shrapnel; 21 AP; 4 HVAP prosinec 1943: 65 HE, 10 shrapnel; 20 AP; 5 HVAP květen 1944: 67 HE, 8 shrapnel; 21 AP; 4 HVAP
Note: HVAP started to appear since April 1943, theoretical load was at least 4 per tank, in practice it was often higher. Shrapnel shells were loaded mostly because there was an abundance of them and often were used as emergency AP against lighter targets (such as PzKpfw IV side) T-34/76 models 1940, 1941 carried 77 rounds, model 1942, 1943 100
T-34/57 (57mm ZIS-4) 20 Frag, 10 shrapnel; 60 AP leden 1943: 20 Frag, 10 shrapnel; 40 AP; 20 HVAP květen 1944: 28 Frag, 10 shrapnel; 44 AP; 8 HVAP
Note: All loads seem to be for T-34/57 model 1943 (100 rounds of ammunition), T-34/57 model 1941 would be abel to carry only 77 rounds as the ammunition was generally as big as for 76mm gun.
T-34/85 (85mm D-5T; 85mm ZIS-S-53) May 1944: 33 Frag, 8 shrapnel; 10 AP; 4 HVAP 1945: 36 Frag; 15 AP; 4 HVAP Post-war: 36 Frag/HE; 14 AP; 5 HVAP Note: Post-war further development would be similar to Yugoslavia T-44M (85mm ZIS-S-53)
40 Frag/HE; 15 AP; 6 HVAP
T-54; T-54A; T-54B (100mm D-10T)
12 HE, 4 Frag; 12 AP; 6 HEAT
Note: In game, HEAT may be replaced by HVAP
T-54K; T-54AK (100mm D-10T)
10 HE, 4 Frag; 10 AP; 4 HEAT
Note: In game, HEAT may be replaced by HVAP
T-54BK (100mm D-10T)
9 HE, 4 Frag; 9 AP; 4 HEAT
Note: In game, HEAT may be replaced by HVAP
OT-54 (100mm D-10T)
10 HE; 6 AP; 3 HEAT
Note: In game, HEAT may be replaced by HVAP
T-55 (100mm D-10T)
18 HE, 4 Frag; 15 AP; 6 HEAT
Note: In game, HEAT may be replaced by HVAP
T-55K (100mm D-10T)
15 HE, 4 Frag; 13 AP; 3 HEAT
Note: In game, HEAT may be replaced by HVAP
OT-55 (100mm D-10T)
9 HE,a 4 Frag; 8 AP; 4 HEAT
Note: In game, HEAT may be replaced by HVAP
T-62 (115mm 2A20 U-5TS)
16 HE; 16 APFSFDS; 8 HEAT
Note: Similar mix could be expected for T-62A and its 100mm D-54TS.
Light Tanks
T-26 (45mm 20K) 78 Frag; 42 AP December 1943: 78 Frag; 34 AP; 8 HVAP
Note: HVAP available since at latest spring of 1943. Theoretically 4 per tank, battlefield reality was often higher. T-70 (45mm vz.1942) 48 Frag, 22 AP Summer 1943: 48 Frag, 18 AP, 4 HVAP December 1943: 56 Frag, 22 AP, 12 HVAP May 1944: 52 Frag; 26 AP; 12 HVAP
Note: Neither of these loadouts gives the 94 rounds carried, it is likely some type (canister/shrapnel) was left out - feel free to fill in by more Frag (in game HE) 45mm tank gun model 1942 was not identical to the antitank gun model 1942, it retained L/46 barrel, but had new recoil mechanism.
PT-76 (76mm D-56TM) 24 HE, 8 AP, 4 HVAP, 4 HEAT 24 HE, 4 AP, 4 HVAP, 8 HEAT
Note: Not in game SP Guns Note: SP guns in Soviet terminology meant assault guns and tank destroyers primarily as there was not much SP artillery used.
SU-76; SU-76M (76mm ZIS-3) 40 HE; 20 AP 30 HE, 30 AP 40 HE, 12 AP, 8 HVAP 30 HE; 22 AP; 8 HVAP
Note: Loadouts varied by purpose, as SU-76 was used both as SP gun and as a makeshift SP AT gun. Generally loadouts would match those of 76mm divisional guns. HVAP available since April 1943.
SU-122 (122mm M-30S) 36 HE, 4 HEAT 40 HE
Note: HEAT had some issues, usually the crews did not bother with it.
SU-85 (85mm D-5S)
24 Frag, 24 AP
24 Frag, 16 AP, 8 HVAP Note: 85mm HVAP was available roughly since the beginning of 1944 SU-100 (100mm D-10S)
15 HE, 18 AP Note: Based on the purpose, this loadout may vary.
SU-152; ISU-152
13 HE; 7 AP
20 HE
Note: Because of a limited loadout, many units preferred to load HE only, its terminal effect was likely to knock out any enemy anyway.
ISU-122
18 HE; 12 AP Note: As with ISU-152, more HE was often loaded in favor of AP.
USA Not much here so far, sources are not that detailed. Some post-war loadouts for 76mm and 90mm guns can be linked tot he Yugoslavian section above.
37mm M3/M5/M6
30% Frag, 40% Canister; 30% AP
Note: Loadout used by USMC in the Pacific. on ETO where there was more threat of armored encounter, it is likely the proportion of AP will be higher.
75mm M3
50% HE, 10% WP, 40% AP
65% HE, 10% WP, 25% AP
Note: Second variant is again from the Pacific. WP is smoke - can be replaced by more HE in game.
3-inch AT gun
10% HE, 90% AP
Note: Theoretical loadout for 3-inch GMC M10 (Wolverine) TD - given more demands on infantry support, more HE was often loaded, even if the 3in/76mm HE was regarded as weaker than 75mm. HVAP projectiles began to appear in August 1944, but were rather scarce.
105mm howitzer M4
70% HE, 15% WP, 15% HEAT
UK and Commonwealth As with the US, Brits tended to set loadouts by gun rather than by vehicle
20mm Polsten/Oerlikon Automatic Cannon
67% Frag, 33% AP
Note: 20mm Polsten was primarily an antiaircraft gun, however it was proposed as a secondary weapon for Centurion tank and AT series of assualt guns.
2pdr OQF Gun
100% AP.
Witl Littlejohn squeeye-bore adaptor: 100% APCNR
Note: Contrary to popular perception 2pounder HE/Frag sheplls WERE produced, tbut in relativcely small amounts and they were not supplied - as epr doctrine - to Armoured units. AT guns of the Royal Artillery had some Frag shells int heir loadouts.
37mm Tank Gun
50% AP, 50% Frag
Note: Probably applies not only to US 37mm guns, but also to 37mm Bofors guns used in Africa.
6pdr OQF Gun
100% AP
20% HE; 74% AP; 6% APDS
Note: APDS began to appear during 1944. HE shells were rather scarce, they were not available initially and did not have good enough eprformance - hence the switch to 765mm gun.
75mm Tank Gun (75mm OQF Mk.V; 75mm M2; 75mm M3)
55% HE, 35% AP
65% HE, 35% AP
Note: "missing" 10% are WP shells - in game load HE instead.
76mm Tank Gun (76mm M1; 3" M5/M7)
45% HE, 45% AP
Note: UK did not receive HVAP rounds for these guns. "Missing" 10% is again WP ammunition.
17pdr OQF Gun
34% HE, 60% AP, 6% APDS
Note: This is distribution prescribed for "antitank specialist" units - antitank guns, TDs and Sherman Firefly. HVAP ammunition begun to appear in August 1944. For Centurion I/II loadouts were more likely to be similar to Comet 77mm gun (see below).
77mm OQF Gun
50% HE, 44% AP, 6% APDS
Comet: 30xHE; 27xAP; 4xAPDS
Note: Contrary to 17pdr gun that was viewed as anti-tank (and even in tank units would be deployed with plenty of 75mmg un tanks for HE support), 77mm gun was primary armament of tank units - loadouts reflect that.
95mm OQF Howitzer
57% HE, 10% HEAT
Note: "missing" ammunition is again WP smoke.
105mm Howitzer M4
57% HE, 10% HEAT
Note: Notice difference against US loadouts, British preferred to load significantly more smoke rounds.
Of course, any and all additions or corrections are welcome, especially if they cover US, UK or German loadouts
Czechoslovakia
Lt vz. 35 (aka PzKpfw 35(t)) (3,7cm UV vz.34)
54 HE-Frag, 24 AP
Note:Did not find standard loadouts for vehicles in Wehrmacht service. After intorduction of loader it was necessary to remove one ammo bin, reducing the total loadout to 72. It can be expected that in German service, the usual loadout was similar to German standards: 50:50. Between 1940-1941 APCR shots may have been carried, if so, then probably one bin / 6 rounds.
LT vz.38 (AKA PzKpfe 38t) (3,7cm UV vz.38)
60 HE-Frag, 30 AP Note:Did not find standard loadouts for vehicles in Wehrmacht service. After intorduction of loader it was necessary to remove several ammo bins, reducing the total loadout to 72. It can be expected that in German service, the usual loadout was similar to German standards: 50:50. Between 1940-1941 APCR shots may have been carried, if so, then probably one bin / 6 rounds.
Yugoslavia
Post-war ammunittion loadouts for T-34/85, M4A3E4 Sherman, M47 Patton, T-54A and more
M4A3E4 Sherman (76mm M1A1C/M1A2) 1950s: 31 HE; 30 AP; 10 HVAP 1950s-1960s: 31 HE; 20 AP; 20 HVAP 1960s: 46 HE; 10 AP; 15 HVAP
Note.: M4A3E4 was M4A3(75)W rebuilt as part of MAP by mounting a 76mm gun. Ammunition loadout was the same as with M4 (76)W.
in 1960s tanks were shifted to support roels because of wear and tear and weak and non-standard guns.
T-34/85 (85mm ZIS-S-53) 1950s: 23 HE; 24 AP; 8 HVAP 1950s-1960s: 23 HE; 20 AP; 12 HVAP 1960s: 23 HE; 12 AP; 8 HVAP; 12 HEAT 1975: 23 HE; 8 AP; 8 HVAP; 16 HEAT
Note.: T-34/85 remained longer in the "1st line" role for several reasons, one of them being the HEAT ammunition. M47 Patton (90mm M36) 1950s: 26 HE; 25 AP; 10 HVAP; 10 HEAT 1950s-1960s: 26 HE; 20 AP; 15 HVAP; 10 HEAT 1960s: 26 HE; 10 AP; 15 HVAP; 20 HEAT 1974: 26 HE; 5 AP; 10 HVAP; 30 HEAT 1974 modernised: 35 HE; 5 AP; 10 HVAP; 40 HEAT
Infantry support: 1960s: 41 HE;5 AP; 10 HVAP; 15 HEAT 1974: 41 HE; 5 AP; 25 HEAT 1974 modernised: 60 HE; 10 AP; 30 HEAT
Note.: Modernised M47 lost one crewman - assistant driver/gunner - and gained space for additional 29 rounds of ammunition. According to Yugoslavian tests US HEAT shells had issues with proper initiation at high impact angles.
T-54 (100mm D-10T)
1960s: 14 HE; 12 AP; 8 HEAT
1970s: 14 HE; 8 AP; 12 HEAT
1970s: 20 HE; 6 AP; 8 HEAT
Note.: 2nd variant for 1970s is infantry support loadout
T-55 (100mm D-10T)
1960s: 17 HE; 16 AP; 10 HEAT
1970s: 16 HE; 12 AP; 15 HEAT
1970s: 26 HE; 8 AP; 9 HEAT
Note.: 2nd variant for 1970s is infantry support loadout
PT-76 (76mm D-56TM)
20 HE; 4 AP; 4 HVAP; 12 HEAT
T-72 (125mm D-81T 2A46)
14 HE; 15 APFSDS; 10 HEAT
27 HE; 6 APFSDS; 6 HEAT
Note: Not in game ;)
T-72M (125mm D-81T 2A46)
17 HE; 15 APFSDS; 12 HEAT
32 HE; 6 APFSDS; 6 HEAT
Note: Not in game ;)
M-84 (125mm D-81T 2A46)
15 HE; 15 APFSDS; 12 HEAT
30 HE; 6 APFSDS; 6 HEAT
Note: Not in game ;)
Germany
General rule for HE:AP ratio was 50:50,. The notable exception were weapons with low muzzle velocity, designed for infantry support (7.5cm KwK L/24; 10.5cm StuH) - there amount of AP/HEAT was usually between 25-33%. APCR ammunition was rare, used only for some guns and generally distributed only when enemy heavy tanks were expected. One of the exceptions were 37mm and 50mm guns. APCR for 88mm L/71 was not distributed at all. HEAT ammunition often replaced HE instead of AP, especially in high velocity guns. USSR General rule, once the HVAP rounds became available, was 4 HVAP rounds for tanks and 8 for antitank guns/SP guns. However in practice troops tended to hoard HVAP from disabled tanks.
Heavy tanks
Churchill III (6pdr 57mm MkIII) 41 Frag, 40 AP
Note: Fragmentation rounds were made by mating Soviet O-271 57mm shells to British cases. This was mostly because British did not supply HE ammunition for 6 pounder guns. Total ammunition loadout was supposed to be 84 projectiles, as shown here they were split roughly 50:50. In practice, though, loadouts of 130-150 rounds were not unusual.
KV-1 vz.1942/KV-1S (76mm ZIS-5)
Sources differ here, for example comparison with Churchill III states following loadout that gives only 90 rounds (instead of 114): 68 HE, 22 AP. However there are also more detailed loadouts: 1943: 86 HE, 28 AP. April 1943: 86 HE; 24 AP, 4 HVAP December 1943: 74 HE, 5 shrapnel, 20 AP, 15 HVAP May 1944: 74 HE, 10 shrapnel, 30 AP
Note: Changing priorities are clearly visible here, especially the late 1943 amount of HVAP projectiles to counter heavier German vehicles - it is far above the standard load of 4 HVAP per tank, so it could be based on actual battlefield practice (hoarding HVAP from destroyed vehicles).
KV-85 (85mm D-5T)
46 Frag, 20 AP, 4 HVAP
Note: 85mm gun was considered as not too suitable for heavy tanks. During WWII, USSR did not produce much (if any) HE-Frag shells for this gun, instead AA fragmentation rounds had to be used. Their effect on field fortifications and other hardened targets was rather underwhelming. IS-85/IS-1 (85mm D-5T)
39 Frag, 16 AP, 4 HVAP 47 Frag, 12 AP
Note: Second variant is infantry support when encountering heavier enemy tanks was not anticipated.
IS-122/IS-2/IS-3 (122mm D-2-5T; 122mm D-25T)
18 HE, 10 AP 20 HE, 8 AP Post-war: 17 HE, 11 AP
Note: Second variant was rather usual, as He projectiles were usually enough even for most armored targets. 8 AP projectiles was a "hardware limit" - at least in IS-3, 8 projectile holders could not physically fir the longer HE-Frag projectiles. During big operations, tanks were often overloaded with ammunition.
T-10 (122mm D-25T)
15 HE; 15 AP
T-10M (122mm M-62T)
15 HE; 6 APDS; 9 HEAT
Note: In game 15xHE, 9xAP, 6x HEAT
Medium Tanks
T-34/76 (76mm L11; 76mm F-34) 1941: 57 HE and shrapnel; 20 AP 1943: 65 HE, 10 shrapnel; 25 AP léto 1943: 65 HE, 10 shrapnel; 21 AP; 4 HVAP prosinec 1943: 65 HE, 10 shrapnel; 20 AP; 5 HVAP květen 1944: 67 HE, 8 shrapnel; 21 AP; 4 HVAP
Note: HVAP started to appear since April 1943, theoretical load was at least 4 per tank, in practice it was often higher. Shrapnel shells were loaded mostly because there was an abundance of them and often were used as emergency AP against lighter targets (such as PzKpfw IV side) T-34/76 models 1940, 1941 carried 77 rounds, model 1942, 1943 100
T-34/57 (57mm ZIS-4) 20 Frag, 10 shrapnel; 60 AP leden 1943: 20 Frag, 10 shrapnel; 40 AP; 20 HVAP květen 1944: 28 Frag, 10 shrapnel; 44 AP; 8 HVAP
Note: All loads seem to be for T-34/57 model 1943 (100 rounds of ammunition), T-34/57 model 1941 would be abel to carry only 77 rounds as the ammunition was generally as big as for 76mm gun.
T-34/85 (85mm D-5T; 85mm ZIS-S-53) May 1944: 33 Frag, 8 shrapnel; 10 AP; 4 HVAP 1945: 36 Frag; 15 AP; 4 HVAP Post-war: 36 Frag/HE; 14 AP; 5 HVAP Note: Post-war further development would be similar to Yugoslavia T-44M (85mm ZIS-S-53)
40 Frag/HE; 15 AP; 6 HVAP
T-54; T-54A; T-54B (100mm D-10T)
12 HE, 4 Frag; 12 AP; 6 HEAT
Note: In game, HEAT may be replaced by HVAP
T-54K; T-54AK (100mm D-10T)
10 HE, 4 Frag; 10 AP; 4 HEAT
Note: In game, HEAT may be replaced by HVAP
T-54BK (100mm D-10T)
9 HE, 4 Frag; 9 AP; 4 HEAT
Note: In game, HEAT may be replaced by HVAP
OT-54 (100mm D-10T)
10 HE; 6 AP; 3 HEAT
Note: In game, HEAT may be replaced by HVAP
T-55 (100mm D-10T)
18 HE, 4 Frag; 15 AP; 6 HEAT
Note: In game, HEAT may be replaced by HVAP
T-55K (100mm D-10T)
15 HE, 4 Frag; 13 AP; 3 HEAT
Note: In game, HEAT may be replaced by HVAP
OT-55 (100mm D-10T)
9 HE,a 4 Frag; 8 AP; 4 HEAT
Note: In game, HEAT may be replaced by HVAP
T-62 (115mm 2A20 U-5TS)
16 HE; 16 APFSFDS; 8 HEAT
Note: Similar mix could be expected for T-62A and its 100mm D-54TS.
Light Tanks
T-26 (45mm 20K) 78 Frag; 42 AP December 1943: 78 Frag; 34 AP; 8 HVAP
Note: HVAP available since at latest spring of 1943. Theoretically 4 per tank, battlefield reality was often higher. T-70 (45mm vz.1942) 48 Frag, 22 AP Summer 1943: 48 Frag, 18 AP, 4 HVAP December 1943: 56 Frag, 22 AP, 12 HVAP May 1944: 52 Frag; 26 AP; 12 HVAP
Note: Neither of these loadouts gives the 94 rounds carried, it is likely some type (canister/shrapnel) was left out - feel free to fill in by more Frag (in game HE) 45mm tank gun model 1942 was not identical to the antitank gun model 1942, it retained L/46 barrel, but had new recoil mechanism.
PT-76 (76mm D-56TM) 24 HE, 8 AP, 4 HVAP, 4 HEAT 24 HE, 4 AP, 4 HVAP, 8 HEAT
Note: Not in game SP Guns Note: SP guns in Soviet terminology meant assault guns and tank destroyers primarily as there was not much SP artillery used.
SU-76; SU-76M (76mm ZIS-3) 40 HE; 20 AP 30 HE, 30 AP 40 HE, 12 AP, 8 HVAP 30 HE; 22 AP; 8 HVAP
Note: Loadouts varied by purpose, as SU-76 was used both as SP gun and as a makeshift SP AT gun. Generally loadouts would match those of 76mm divisional guns. HVAP available since April 1943.
SU-122 (122mm M-30S) 36 HE, 4 HEAT 40 HE
Note: HEAT had some issues, usually the crews did not bother with it.
SU-85 (85mm D-5S)
24 Frag, 24 AP
24 Frag, 16 AP, 8 HVAP Note: 85mm HVAP was available roughly since the beginning of 1944 SU-100 (100mm D-10S)
15 HE, 18 AP Note: Based on the purpose, this loadout may vary.
SU-152; ISU-152
13 HE; 7 AP
20 HE
Note: Because of a limited loadout, many units preferred to load HE only, its terminal effect was likely to knock out any enemy anyway.
ISU-122
18 HE; 12 AP Note: As with ISU-152, more HE was often loaded in favor of AP.
USA Not much here so far, sources are not that detailed. Some post-war loadouts for 76mm and 90mm guns can be linked tot he Yugoslavian section above.
37mm M3/M5/M6
30% Frag, 40% Canister; 30% AP
Note: Loadout used by USMC in the Pacific. on ETO where there was more threat of armored encounter, it is likely the proportion of AP will be higher.
75mm M3
50% HE, 10% WP, 40% AP
65% HE, 10% WP, 25% AP
Note: Second variant is again from the Pacific. WP is smoke - can be replaced by more HE in game.
3-inch AT gun
10% HE, 90% AP
Note: Theoretical loadout for 3-inch GMC M10 (Wolverine) TD - given more demands on infantry support, more HE was often loaded, even if the 3in/76mm HE was regarded as weaker than 75mm. HVAP projectiles began to appear in August 1944, but were rather scarce.
105mm howitzer M4
70% HE, 15% WP, 15% HEAT
UK and Commonwealth As with the US, Brits tended to set loadouts by gun rather than by vehicle
20mm Polsten/Oerlikon Automatic Cannon
67% Frag, 33% AP
Note: 20mm Polsten was primarily an antiaircraft gun, however it was proposed as a secondary weapon for Centurion tank and AT series of assualt guns.
2pdr OQF Gun
100% AP.
Witl Littlejohn squeeye-bore adaptor: 100% APCNR
Note: Contrary to popular perception 2pounder HE/Frag sheplls WERE produced, tbut in relativcely small amounts and they were not supplied - as epr doctrine - to Armoured units. AT guns of the Royal Artillery had some Frag shells int heir loadouts.
37mm Tank Gun
50% AP, 50% Frag
Note: Probably applies not only to US 37mm guns, but also to 37mm Bofors guns used in Africa.
6pdr OQF Gun
100% AP
20% HE; 74% AP; 6% APDS
Note: APDS began to appear during 1944. HE shells were rather scarce, they were not available initially and did not have good enough eprformance - hence the switch to 765mm gun.
75mm Tank Gun (75mm OQF Mk.V; 75mm M2; 75mm M3)
55% HE, 35% AP
65% HE, 35% AP
Note: "missing" 10% are WP shells - in game load HE instead.
76mm Tank Gun (76mm M1; 3" M5/M7)
45% HE, 45% AP
Note: UK did not receive HVAP rounds for these guns. "Missing" 10% is again WP ammunition.
17pdr OQF Gun
34% HE, 60% AP, 6% APDS
Note: This is distribution prescribed for "antitank specialist" units - antitank guns, TDs and Sherman Firefly. HVAP ammunition begun to appear in August 1944. For Centurion I/II loadouts were more likely to be similar to Comet 77mm gun (see below).
77mm OQF Gun
50% HE, 44% AP, 6% APDS
Comet: 30xHE; 27xAP; 4xAPDS
Note: Contrary to 17pdr gun that was viewed as anti-tank (and even in tank units would be deployed with plenty of 75mmg un tanks for HE support), 77mm gun was primary armament of tank units - loadouts reflect that.
95mm OQF Howitzer
57% HE, 10% HEAT
Note: "missing" ammunition is again WP smoke.
105mm Howitzer M4
57% HE, 10% HEAT
Note: Notice difference against US loadouts, British preferred to load significantly more smoke rounds.
Of course, any and all additions or corrections are welcome, especially if they cover US, UK or German loadouts
Subject: Sold premium tanks refund
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IPaul72: Hello there Did you try sending a ticket to support about the
vehicle? As in some cases premium vehicles can be returned but only
one per account I believe. Kind regards IPaul72
Subject: Kanonenfutter und Mutter der Kompanie
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demonicron, on 20 February 2014 - 12:22 AM, said: Und Btw du bist nich zufällig der Enrico von Ubisoft, der bei der SH3 comm mit dabei war?
Nighthawk810, on 20 February 2014 - 01:53 AM, said: ... Hab pro Smiley grad 4-5 Versuche gebraucht bis er endlich mal nicht automatisch noch vor dem "Ja" eingesetzt wurde das nervt etwas
Volkspanzerwagen, on 20 February 2014 - 02:35 AM, said: Ahh... Frischfleisch zum weichklopfen! Ein herzliches Willkommen im Löwenkäfig an dieser Stelle! Du hast Dir ja einen tollen Zeitpunkt ausgesucht, ich sag nur Server... Darfst mich Volkspanzerwagen nennen! ;)
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demonicron, on 20 February 2014 - 12:22 AM, said: Und Btw du bist nich zufällig der Enrico von Ubisoft, der bei der SH3 comm mit dabei war?
nRicochet: Danke für deine Kommentare, demonicron - zum
Thema Vertrauen hab ich ja vorher schon was gesagt. Zu
deiner Frage: Nein.
Nighthawk810, on 20 February 2014 - 01:53 AM, said: ... Hab pro Smiley grad 4-5 Versuche gebraucht bis er endlich mal nicht automatisch noch vor dem "Ja" eingesetzt wurde das nervt etwas
nRicochet: Vielen Dank, Nighthawk810. Bei mir klappt das mit den
Smileys immer super. Vielleicht liegt's am Browser? Ich
benutz Chrome.
Volkspanzerwagen, on 20 February 2014 - 02:35 AM, said: Ahh... Frischfleisch zum weichklopfen! Ein herzliches Willkommen im Löwenkäfig an dieser Stelle! Du hast Dir ja einen tollen Zeitpunkt ausgesucht, ich sag nur Server... Darfst mich Volkspanzerwagen nennen! ;)
nRicochet: Haha, genial - der Name passt zu meinem Auto.
Subject: Registrace do Turnaje světa Wargamingu
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Karlie: To jsem na to zvědavá :)) Jen
prosím berte na vědomí, že samostatné turnaje pro WoT a WoWp běží
dále, takže pokud se někomu ten společný nelíbí, nemusí se
účastnit a může zůstat u těch klasických.
Subject: Kanonenfutter und Mutter der Kompanie
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MarsOne, on 19 February 2014 - 11:58 PM, said: Banzai? (aus dem WoWp-Forum) ... Doch es gibt auch noch andere Probleme: Das Forum stellt eines der wichtigsten Kommunikationsmittel mit den Spielern dar. ... Es gibt viel zu tun! Es liegt einiges im argen! Ich wünsche Dir allen ernstes VIEL SPASS und FREUDE mit uns. greetz MarsOne
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MarsOne, on 19 February 2014 - 11:58 PM, said: Banzai? (aus dem WoWp-Forum) ... Doch es gibt auch noch andere Probleme: Das Forum stellt eines der wichtigsten Kommunikationsmittel mit den Spielern dar. ... Es gibt viel zu tun! Es liegt einiges im argen! Ich wünsche Dir allen ernstes VIEL SPASS und FREUDE mit uns. greetz MarsOne
nRicochet: Wow, MarsOne. Das ist wirklich beeindruckend. Vielen Dank
für die Zeit, die du dir genommen hast, das alles zusammen zu
schreiben. Danke auch für die Tipps mit dem Posting und dem
"Herausheben" von Namen. Apropos Forum: Du kannst dir sicher sein,
dass deine Auflistung der Probleme von mir angefasst wird, sobald
ich herausgefunden habe, wie die Dinge hier
funktionieren. Sicherlich sind das alles störende Faktoren im
Forum, aber ich möchte momentan den größten Teil meiner Zeit in das
Kennenlernen und die Interaktion mit der Community im Forum stecken
- deswegen werde ich sicher auch hier und da mal
auftauchen. Gruß, nRicochet.
Subject: Kanonenfutter und Mutter der Kompanie
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Hugly, on 19 February 2014 - 10:18 PM, said: Na, dann herzlich Willkommen auch mal von mir! ... Aus dem was hier so in den letzten Monaten alles abging möchte ich dir einen Tip geben (Ich bin alt und habe einen Bart, ich darf das!): Viele aus der Community halten Leute wie dich offenbar für die WG-Götter die alles wissen und alles entscheiden können... und die Erwartungen von denen die es besser wissen dürften auch nicht viel niedriger sein... Wenn du hier also Punkte sammeln willst, dann erkläre immer auch ein wenig die Hintergründe... du kannst keinen neuen Server installieren? Du weisst nicht warum es ständig Lags gibt? Du kannst nicht jedem von uns einen Monat Premium schenken? Kein Problem... aber dann sage einfach was du denn tun kannst, was du weisst, wo du dich informierst, welche Wünsche du weitergibst... also einfach das, was grade Sache ist. Wenn wir das Gefühl haben dass du unsere Sorgen ernst nimmst, auch wenn dir leider die Hände gebunden sind (Und das wird wohl oft der Fall sein), dann wird es auch das von dir erhoffte Vertrauensverhältnis geben das wir uns hier wohl alle wünschen.... In diesem Sinne: Viel Glück und Erfolg!
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Hugly, on 19 February 2014 - 10:18 PM, said: Na, dann herzlich Willkommen auch mal von mir! ... Aus dem was hier so in den letzten Monaten alles abging möchte ich dir einen Tip geben (Ich bin alt und habe einen Bart, ich darf das!): Viele aus der Community halten Leute wie dich offenbar für die WG-Götter die alles wissen und alles entscheiden können... und die Erwartungen von denen die es besser wissen dürften auch nicht viel niedriger sein... Wenn du hier also Punkte sammeln willst, dann erkläre immer auch ein wenig die Hintergründe... du kannst keinen neuen Server installieren? Du weisst nicht warum es ständig Lags gibt? Du kannst nicht jedem von uns einen Monat Premium schenken? Kein Problem... aber dann sage einfach was du denn tun kannst, was du weisst, wo du dich informierst, welche Wünsche du weitergibst... also einfach das, was grade Sache ist. Wenn wir das Gefühl haben dass du unsere Sorgen ernst nimmst, auch wenn dir leider die Hände gebunden sind (Und das wird wohl oft der Fall sein), dann wird es auch das von dir erhoffte Vertrauensverhältnis geben das wir uns hier wohl alle wünschen.... In diesem Sinne: Viel Glück und Erfolg!
nRicochet: Moin Hugly, danke für deinen Beitrag. Finde es gut,
dass du genau diese Dinge ansprichst. Ich bin weitem kein Gott, ich
weiß nicht alles und meine Entscheidungen werden sich immer in
einem Rahmen bewegen. Ich kann sicherlich nicht alles verändern,
aber ich kann schnell erkennen, welche Dinge ich beeinflussen und
somit auch ändern kann. Und darauf werden wir im Community Team uns
konzentrieren - auf die Dinge, die wir ändern können! Die
restlichen Punkte, die du ansprichst, sind Dinge, die ich für
selbstverständlich halte. Wir werden Informationen beschaffen, wenn
wir etwas nicht wissen. Wir werden auch sagen, wenn uns die
Hände gebunden sind, aber das Community Team wird in jedem
Fall das Beste geben, um (Hinter)Gründe zu liefern.
Danke dir!
Subject: WotLabs signatures issue
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Ectar: This would be a subject better raised with the creator of the
signature
Subject: Weekly Missions: Team Battle Demolition
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Kazuya, on 18 February 2014 - 01:41 PM, said: Would you please stop with this just team battles and platoon awards , there is 10 times more people that play solo and no team/clan battles at all ,i mean you can keep all these team awards for 5% playerbase but give us lone wolfs our awards back.
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Kazuya, on 18 February 2014 - 01:41 PM, said: Would you please stop with this just team battles and platoon awards , there is 10 times more people that play solo and no team/clan battles at all ,i mean you can keep all these team awards for 5% playerbase but give us lone wolfs our awards back.
Ectar: There is weekly missions for random battles along with
weekly battles for clan wars. We're trying to offer missions to as
many different groups of players as possible.
Subject: LAG permanent apres MAJ 8.11
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lestonf, on 19 February 2014 - 11:53 PM, said: Vous êtes bien salarié de Wargaming,non ?Ce n'est pas votre rôle de faire remonter l'info à WG ?Je vous paye votre salaire et je doit faire votre boulot? Quand il y a un truc que j'ai pas envie de faire à mon taf,je peux compter sur vous?Merci d'avance !
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lestonf, on 19 February 2014 - 11:53 PM, said: Vous êtes bien salarié de Wargaming,non ?Ce n'est pas votre rôle de faire remonter l'info à WG ?Je vous paye votre salaire et je doit faire votre boulot? Quand il y a un truc que j'ai pas envie de faire à mon taf,je peux compter sur vous?Merci d'avance !
Tanatoy: Tu me paye mon salaire et tu as le droit de me parler
agressivement ? Publie un pingplotter que tu fait pendant 30
minutes de session de jeu, merci. (Et oui, ça c'est ta part de
boulot, moi, je ne me déplacerais pas chez toi pour le faire).
Subject: Clan Nominations
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DarkGie, on 19 February 2014 - 08:59 PM, said: Clan: A-GOD Clan Commander : DarkGie Diplomat : kotafera
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DarkGie, on 19 February 2014 - 08:59 PM, said: Clan: A-GOD Clan Commander : DarkGie Diplomat : kotafera
IPaul72: Done!
Subject: 5vs5: Tier 8 Encounters - Questions & Answers
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Plesonja, on 19 February 2014 - 10:23 PM, said: Is it possible to add 8th reserve player to our team? We finished the wednesday part with 7 players in team, but now would like to add the 8th player just-in-case. Is it possible? Our team Grupirovka_Morkovka, and the player that we want to add is ReaLove. Thanks in advance.
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Plesonja, on 19 February 2014 - 10:23 PM, said: Is it possible to add 8th reserve player to our team? We finished the wednesday part with 7 players in team, but now would like to add the 8th player just-in-case. Is it possible? Our team Grupirovka_Morkovka, and the player that we want to add is ReaLove. Thanks in advance.
Berbo: Not possible. Once the tournament starts, there's no
possibility of adding new players
Subject: Встреча латвийского коммюнити
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OldFox: Хочу сообщить, что 1 марта, в субботу, латвийское коммюнити WoT
приглашается в Lido Vermanitis . Там будет пиво лично от OldFox
(самое лучшее, которое там варят) , там будет турнир по WoT в
формате Sit&Go, в котором каждый может заработать золото,
разговоры пьяные, ну и прочее. Кто живет в Риге, подтягивайтесь -
скучно не будет. Все знают, что OldFox не экономит на своих.
Subject: WoT Latvijas sabiedribas tiksanas 1. marta apspriešana
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OldFox: Tikam pie skaidribas: LU telpas nekas mums nesanak. Jo tur loti
daudz neskaidribas un vini nevar panemt no manim naudu, jo it ka
tas ir bezmaksas pasakums, viniem nedrikst nemt naudu, bet bez
naudas nekas nebus utt. Es nolemu ta: mes uzreiz iesim uz
Vermaniti, tur ir WiFi, pieslegsim datoru un spelesim turniru
SIT&GO. Tas nozime ka katrs var nospelet no WG preses konta vai
ari no mana konta ar tanku Lowe, un kurs sanems vairak pieredzes
viena kauja, tas vinnes. To naudu, ko es planoju samaksat LU par
telpam, es izteresu uz alu jums. Ta bus godigi -ja vini negrib
sanemt no mums, es vinus neprasisu. Mums ir savas darisanas, un mes
neesam tie prasitaji, kuriem no LU ir atkarigs dzivot vai ne. Baigi
bija sis dzeks pasparlicinats, nafig vinu. Es nemsu savu
notebook datoru, kurs grib vel vienu panemt? Protams, es par to
samaksasu - menesa premiums par palidzibu, 2500 zelta par 3
stundam. Vot ta viss sanak. Man skiet ka tas ir labak neka mes
saplanojam ieprieks. Paldies par uzmanibu!
Subject: Onkel Hardwares Kaffeeklatsch(en) :) 15-16Uhr, Kännchen nur drausen!
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nRicochet: Ich baller mich auch in die Sofalandschaft der Träume - macht's
gut, Leute! War schön, euch kennenzulernen! {u_u}`zZzz
Subject: Kanonenfutter und Mutter der Kompanie
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Tarnfarben, on 19 February 2014 - 09:31 PM, said: Von Vertrauen kann an dieser Stelle ja noch gar keine Rede sein. Vertrauen muss man sich erarbeiten und verdienen! Nur weil hier ein "Neuer" ist, werden hoffentlich nicht gleich alle schreien: "Hurraaaaaaa.....hier ist ein neuer CM...dem vertrauen wir mal jetzt......." Wie naiv ist das denn?! Überzeuge durch Leistung, Ehrlichkeit und Nähe zur Com...dann kann man irgendwann sicherlich auch von Vertrauen reden!
wolle367, on 19 February 2014 - 09:38 PM, said: Moin,Moin Hamburger? Hoffentlich kein entlassener vom HSV Vorstand....
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Tarnfarben, on 19 February 2014 - 09:31 PM, said: Von Vertrauen kann an dieser Stelle ja noch gar keine Rede sein. Vertrauen muss man sich erarbeiten und verdienen! Nur weil hier ein "Neuer" ist, werden hoffentlich nicht gleich alle schreien: "Hurraaaaaaa.....hier ist ein neuer CM...dem vertrauen wir mal jetzt......." Wie naiv ist das denn?! Überzeuge durch Leistung, Ehrlichkeit und Nähe zur Com...dann kann man irgendwann sicherlich auch von Vertrauen reden!
nRicochet: Da hast du schon teilweise Recht, Tarnfarben. Ich spreche
aber auch von dem Vertrauen derer, die zwar nicht "Hurra!"
schreien, aber neutraler an die Sache gehen und ohne große
Erwartungen auf meine Arbeit vertrauen. Wie auch du dem Koch im
Restaurant vertraust, dass er dir nicht in die Suppe spuckt. Dass
ich bei den kritischen Stimmen Vertrauen erst gewinnen muss, ist
mir durchaus bewusst. Die Naivität diesbezüglich hab ich schon
vor langer Zeit abgelegt.
wolle367, on 19 February 2014 - 09:38 PM, said: Moin,Moin Hamburger? Hoffentlich kein entlassener vom HSV Vorstand....
nRicochet: Gibt's da schon welche aus'm Vorstand?
Subject: Onkel Hardwares Kaffeeklatsch(en) :) 15-16Uhr, Kännchen nur drausen!
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nRicochet: Ja klar, ist auch lecker, aber nach'm Essen bin ich immer so
müde.
Subject: Onkel Hardwares Kaffeeklatsch(en) :) 15-16Uhr, Kännchen nur drausen!
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nRicochet: Bullet hat gelesen "10-12 Jahre zurück versetzt" und direkt Witze
aus der Zeit rausgekramt.
Subject: Kanonenfutter und Mutter der Kompanie
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Stranger40, on 19 February 2014 - 09:06 PM, said: Was soll ich sagen? Beneiden tue ich dich nicht. Wenn ich du wäre würde ich eher gegen die Community arbeiten, denn einen schlimmeren Haufen habe ich in meinem Leben noch nciht gesehen. Du wirst aber nicht lange suchen müssen, der Großteil der Handlampenfraktion war bereits anwesend. Wenn du tatsächlich Sachlichkeit und Objektivität im Umgang hier erwartest, dann würde ich mich schonmal ans Kündigungsschreiben machen, denn die wirst du hier nicht finden. Ich will dir hier nicht den Einstieg mies reden, aber so kannst du zumindest nicht sagen, man hätte dich nicht gewarnt. p.s. Der deutschen Community würdig? Hmmm, schade, leider waren ER und ER nicht verfügbar.
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Stranger40, on 19 February 2014 - 09:06 PM, said: Was soll ich sagen? Beneiden tue ich dich nicht. Wenn ich du wäre würde ich eher gegen die Community arbeiten, denn einen schlimmeren Haufen habe ich in meinem Leben noch nciht gesehen. Du wirst aber nicht lange suchen müssen, der Großteil der Handlampenfraktion war bereits anwesend. Wenn du tatsächlich Sachlichkeit und Objektivität im Umgang hier erwartest, dann würde ich mich schonmal ans Kündigungsschreiben machen, denn die wirst du hier nicht finden. Ich will dir hier nicht den Einstieg mies reden, aber so kannst du zumindest nicht sagen, man hätte dich nicht gewarnt. p.s. Der deutschen Community würdig? Hmmm, schade, leider waren ER und ER nicht verfügbar.
nRicochet: Danke für die Warnung, Stranger40. Hoffe, dass wir alle
miteinander wachsen können und du irgendwann in Zukunft eine
Begrüßung anders formulieren würdest!
Subject: Onkel Hardwares Kaffeeklatsch(en) :) 15-16Uhr, Kännchen nur drausen!
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Falkus_Kibre, on 19 February 2014 - 09:04 PM, said: *falkus eilt mit einem teller gefüllte paprika herbei und stellt sie vor dem gast ab* laß es dir schmecken, willkommen im cafe.
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Falkus_Kibre, on 19 February 2014 - 09:04 PM, said: *falkus eilt mit einem teller gefüllte paprika herbei und stellt sie vor dem gast ab* laß es dir schmecken, willkommen im cafe.
nRicochet: Boah, 'n Benderpanzer. Wie geil is das denn? Fühle mich
direkt 10-12 Jahre zurück versetzt.
Subject: Kanonenfutter und Mutter der Kompanie
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nRicochet: Ey, nicht Offtopic werden hier!
Subject: Onkel Hardwares Kaffeeklatsch(en) :) 15-16Uhr, Kännchen nur drausen!
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nRicochet: Das klingt hier alles sehr poetisch. Ist das etwa gar das "Cafe der
anonymen Dichter"?
Subject: Onkel Hardwares Kaffeeklatsch(en) :) 15-16Uhr, Kännchen nur drausen!
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nRicochet: So hoch bin ich nicht. Von der Burg hab ich schon gehört! Ich lese
ja nicht nur hier mit. Muss mal gucken, wie's mit'm
Kennenlernen aussieht, kann da leider noch nix versprechen.
Subject: Onkel Hardwares Kaffeeklatsch(en) :) 15-16Uhr, Kännchen nur drausen!
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nRicochet: Moet? Trink ich nicht. Gibt's Bier?
Subject: [Concours forum] Capture d’écran Hebdomadaire : 18 au 24 février
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shadowsuns, on 18 February 2014 - 10:48 PM, said: VOICI la mienne! ">" /> DANS this carte aux glaciale blizzard VOICI commentaire soi Protéger de la Tempête ;)
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shadowsuns, on 18 February 2014 - 10:48 PM, said: VOICI la mienne! ">" /> DANS this carte aux glaciale blizzard VOICI commentaire soi Protéger de la Tempête ;)
Rhaya: Bonjour, Votre participation n'est pas valide car 1. votre
image est tout simplement trop petite et 2. vous n'avez pas
posté d'image nous permettant d'identifier votre char. Si vous
voulez participer, il faudrait refaire votre participation !
Rhaya
Subject: [Concours forum] Réponse en Vidéo des vacances d'hiver !
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Rhaya: Bonjour, Réponse, car ca n'était pas un Concours mais un
cadeau spécial pour remercier pour ceux qui ont fait l'effort
de nous envoyer leurs vidéos sans rien attendre en retour. Il a
donc été décidé par les community manager que ceux ayant reçu une
récompense au Concours créatif d'hiver dans la catégorie Vidéo et
qui avait posté la même vidéo ici ne serait pas éligible à une
double récompense. Rhaya
Subject: Kanonenfutter und Mutter der Kompanie
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_Azrael_van_Haaising_, on 19 February 2014 - 07:57 PM, said: im prinzip hast du recht ein thread ist manchmal am besten aber ab einer gewissen teilnehmer zahl wird eine diskussion in einem thread einfach zu unübersichtlich. um es mal zu übertreiben könnte man das ganze forum in einen thread packen da das thema ja wot ist. allerdings werden die ganzen unterthemen dabei vernachläßigt.
guuuude, on 19 February 2014 - 08:01 PM, said: WIe waere es anstatt hier lang rum zu reden direkt mit Taten und mal den geneigten Mitspieler aufzuklaeren was der Stand mit den lags ist? Was war das problem seit wan ist es bekannt (intern) wird daran gearbeitet gibt es vortschritte wann wird eine Loesung erwartet etc etc Das waere mal taten statt worte sprechen lassen und zahlende Kunden nicht fuer Dumm zu verkaufen!1!!
Huzzemann, on 19 February 2014 - 08:06 PM, said: also ich sage auch mal vorsichtig hallo...... liebe grüße huzze´s betreuer
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_Azrael_van_Haaising_, on 19 February 2014 - 07:57 PM, said: im prinzip hast du recht ein thread ist manchmal am besten aber ab einer gewissen teilnehmer zahl wird eine diskussion in einem thread einfach zu unübersichtlich. um es mal zu übertreiben könnte man das ganze forum in einen thread packen da das thema ja wot ist. allerdings werden die ganzen unterthemen dabei vernachläßigt.
nRicochet: Danke für deine Antwort dazu, _Azrael_van_Haaising_. Das
Ding ist: Die Leute, die interessiert am Thema sind, lesen diesen
einen Thread aktiv mit und beteiligen sich. Wer nachträglich
interessiert ist, liest sich alles durch. Wirklich interessanter
für alle sind doch letztendlich eher die Antworten als
die Fragen, oder? Und die kommen vom Community Team - in einem
Diskussionsthread. Und dein Vergleich mit der
Übertreibung hinkt ein bisschen. WoT an sich ist viel zu komplex
für einen Thread, da helfen die Unterforen. Lagprobleme sind bei
weitem nicht so komplex wie das ganze Spiel. Die haben locker
in einem Thread Platz.
guuuude, on 19 February 2014 - 08:01 PM, said: WIe waere es anstatt hier lang rum zu reden direkt mit Taten und mal den geneigten Mitspieler aufzuklaeren was der Stand mit den lags ist? Was war das problem seit wan ist es bekannt (intern) wird daran gearbeitet gibt es vortschritte wann wird eine Loesung erwartet etc etc Das waere mal taten statt worte sprechen lassen und zahlende Kunden nicht fuer Dumm zu verkaufen!1!!
nRicochet: Dieser Thread hier ist mir gewidmet! Sobald wir Antworten
zu allen Fragen haben werden wir dazu auch was sagen. Wie
lange ihr darauf warten müsst, werde ich sobald wie möglich in
Erfahrung bringen.
Huzzemann, on 19 February 2014 - 08:06 PM, said: also ich sage auch mal vorsichtig hallo...... liebe grüße huzze´s betreuer
nRicochet: Bin begeistert über die Charaktervielfalt hier im Forum,
muss aber sagen: Wenn du außerhalb vom OT trollst, bekommst Du es
mit mir zu tun! Schwarzer Troll-Gürtel im 6. Dan!
Subject: Kanonenfutter und Mutter der Kompanie
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Walther_K_Nehring, on 19 February 2014 - 07:03 PM, said: Eure Majestät reicht völlig aus
JonnyBGood, on 19 February 2014 - 07:06 PM, said: Hi nRicochet, ... PS: Rethorische Frage, nach was hast Du Deinen Nick benannt? Abpraller, Band oder Sportart?
coolathlon, on 19 February 2014 - 07:20 PM, said: ... Wenn du Hilfe zur Spielmechanik brauchst, wende dich and die DEPAC, die Leute dort können recht saugut erklären, wie das alles funktioniert. Lass im Forum bitte nicht die Axt walten, lieblos geschlossene Threads mit Pauschalantwort heißen die so schon pessimistische Grundstimmung, die oft herrscht, noch weiter an. ...
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Walther_K_Nehring, on 19 February 2014 - 07:03 PM, said: Eure Majestät reicht völlig aus
nRicochet: Das kannste mal voll vergessen! haha
JonnyBGood, on 19 February 2014 - 07:06 PM, said: Hi nRicochet, ... PS: Rethorische Frage, nach was hast Du Deinen Nick benannt? Abpraller, Band oder Sportart?
nRicochet: Danke, JonnyBGood! :) Und zu deiner Frage: Der Name kommt
von Abpraller - die hatte ich nämlich zur Genüge im
Spiel, fehlt mir noch'n bisschen Grundwissen, glaub ich. DEPAC
klingt da schon ganz gut, deswegen ...
coolathlon, on 19 February 2014 - 07:20 PM, said: ... Wenn du Hilfe zur Spielmechanik brauchst, wende dich and die DEPAC, die Leute dort können recht saugut erklären, wie das alles funktioniert. Lass im Forum bitte nicht die Axt walten, lieblos geschlossene Threads mit Pauschalantwort heißen die so schon pessimistische Grundstimmung, die oft herrscht, noch weiter an. ...
nRicochet: ... Danke für den Tipp, coolathlon! Zu
der Sache mit den "geschlossenen Threads" nur kurz: Ich bin
ein großer Freund davon, Diskussionen zu einem Thema in einem
Thread zu sammeln. Denn letztendlich kann man dort besser
diskutieren, die Nachrichten von Mitgliedern des Community Teams
besser verbreiten und lesen und deswegen kann ich nicht
versprechen, dass die "lieblos geschlossenen Threads mit
Pauschalantwort" gänzlich verschwinden. Aber ich kann Dir
versichern, dass in diesen Antworten immer auch der Link zum
Diskussionsthread zu finden sein wird. Denn
EIN Thread mit 100 Seiten sagt mehr als gefühlte 100
Threads zu einem Thema. Communitymanagerehrenwort! Übrigens:
Den "izmena" Smiley bezeichne ich als "Banzai-Smiley" und ich
fange an, ihn sehr zu mögen!
Subject: Stats and their impact on game play
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iScending: Stats can be a blessing and a curse. I'm an achievement guy myself
and sometimes I really feel a need to complete all achievements for
a specific game (CoD 2 gave possible signature cards if you
completed some stuff so this got a fair share of hours!).
The same goes for my stats. I was really close to over 4k
rating (whiii :p) and I felt a "need" to get that "magic" number.
It went over, under, over and under until I managed to go on a
descent streak and now I'm around 4020. Not stellar at all, but
when I see it, I feel proud.
This is the key thing with stats in my view. If you like your stats then all is well in the world. Get the stats you want for you, if someone else feels the need to call you on that your stats aren't as "leet" as theirs then just ignore them, they ain't worth your time.
This is the key thing with stats in my view. If you like your stats then all is well in the world. Get the stats you want for you, if someone else feels the need to call you on that your stats aren't as "leet" as theirs then just ignore them, they ain't worth your time.
Subject: Noaim nooby
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d179, on 19 February 2014 - 02:38 PM, said: Zakladam ten temat, bo nie moge juz zniesc faktu, ze niektorzy gracze maja bonusy w postaci noaimow.
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d179, on 19 February 2014 - 02:38 PM, said: Zakladam ten temat, bo nie moge juz zniesc faktu, ze niektorzy gracze maja bonusy w postaci noaimow.
Gepard_PH: Jeśli tylko założenie tematu pomoże Ci to znieść to super, że
mogliśmy pomóc! Twoja opowieść była niezwykle pasjonująca.
Myślę, że na forum jeszcze takiej historii nie było. Zmartwi
Cię jedynie być może fakt, że to co nazywasz bonusem jest w
rzeczywistości zjawiskiem dużo prostszym i powszechnie znanym w
literaturze fachowej jako "fart".
Subject: transferência bancaria
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J0HN_117: Hi, You should send a ticket to support team in
english, please. They will be able to help you. Thank
you.
Subject: Team Kills are going too far
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iScending: I am also rather unsure of the statistics you managed to pull as
I'm not sure it's genuine :p. Please read the sticky from
Dakiras (http://forum.worldof...ent-discussion/) as it will answer
any questions about the changes we made to the system in the last
patch. Thread locked.
Subject: Canal de Youtube de Sar_Luk (Setfixer)
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J0HN_117: ¡Mucha suerte con el proyecto! Tienes buenos videos, los iré
siguiendo de cerca ;)
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